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Zoe

Zoe Report 10 Dec 2013 15:11

Looking for any information on the descendants of Walter John Holland (1881 - 1951) and Mary Elizabeth Whittle (1880 -1973?). They had 6 children, Lucy, Edna May, Walter, Gladys, Richard Henry & a baby born 31st March 1911. That's as far as I have been able to get. If anybody shares any of these ancestors, I would love to know!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Dec 2013 16:02

For info...

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HOLLAND, Walter J
Address: 26 Edington St Wavertree Liverpool

HOLLAND, Walter J Head Married M 31 1880 Stoker On Stationary Boilers Raby Lancashire VIEW
HOLLAND, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married6 years F 30 1881 Liverpool VIEW
HOLLAND, Walter Son Single M 5 1906 School Edge Hill VIEW
HOLLAND, Lucy Daughter F 4 1907 Edge Hill VIEW
HOLLAND, Edna May Daughter F 2 1909 Wavertree Lpool VIEW
HOLLAND, Baby F 0 (3 DAYS) 1911 Wavertree Lpool VIEW
WHITTLE, Elizabeth Sister In Law Married3 years F 23 1888 Edge Hill Lpool VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 22666
Reference: RG14PN22666 RG78PN1328 RD455 SD11 ED13 SN287
Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: Wavertree
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: Wavertree
Address: 26 Edington St Wavertree Liverpool
County: Lancashire

jax

jax Report 10 Dec 2013 16:05

Have you looked to see if anyone has these people in their tree?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Dec 2013 16:07

Hi Zoe

To find out if any other members are researching this family....click on "Search" above...and then click on "Search All Members Trees" from the drop down menu.

If you find any connections you can send messages to those members.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Dec 2013 16:09

Look for info at....................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Dec 2013 16:12

One of the names from your list of the family's children

Death
Name: HOLLAND, Richard Henry
Registration district: Knowsley
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1984
Month of registration: August
Date of Birth:9 October 1917
Volume no: 36
Page no: 63
Reg no: 884

Inky1

Inky1 Report 10 Dec 2013 16:16

Mary Whittle. 1880 or 1881?
You have Mary Whittle 1881 Liverpool in a GR tree, as do two other people. Are you in contact with them?

Zoe

Zoe Report 10 Dec 2013 16:37

I have contacted members in the past but they don't appear to be the same ancestors. There is one woman who has several of the Hollands in her family tree that I also have, but she has never responded to my emails.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Dec 2013 16:41

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1213502

(above looks to relate)

Chris :)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Dec 2013 16:46

Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Lucy Holland Name: Lucy Holland
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1906
Baptism Date: 12 Dec 1906
24 Spofforth Road
Parish: Edge Hill, St Dunstan
Father's Name: Walles John Holland (Stoker)
Mother's Name: Mary Elizabeth Holland
Reference Number: 283 DUN/2/4

Zoe

Zoe Report 10 Dec 2013 16:50

Thank you Chris.. that was my original post 3 years ago that I had forgotten all about.. I'm no further forward today than I was back then! I'd like to know if Walter John Holland had any grand children and if there any descendants alive today.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Dec 2013 16:54


..Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Walter Holland Name: Walter Holland
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1905
Baptism Date: 4 Jun 1905
24 Spofforth Road
Parish: Edge Hill, St Dunstan
Father's Name: Walter John Holland (Railway Servant)
Mother's Name: Mary Elizabeth Holland
Reference Number: 283 DUN/2/3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Dec 2013 16:54

Any thoughts on the info I posted?

To find descendants.......you'll need to do the research by looking for BMD info

..............have you tried looking in the years since you first posted?

Buy the death cert..........see who the informant was

Zoe

Zoe Report 10 Dec 2013 20:23

Thank you Reggie for the information; it matches what I had also found out. I will look at BMD info. Walter John's brother was called Henry Smith Holland who was my great grandfather, which is why I am so interested in this side of my family. We know nothing about them and there is no one to ask that we know.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 11 Dec 2013 08:34

Looking at Walter's baptism record he was born 22nd April 1905 so this must be his death...

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Walter Holland Name: Walter Holland
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1905
Date of Registration: Nov 1985
Age at Death: 80
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 36
Page: 641

It might be a good idea to purchase a copy of the death certificate to find out who the informant was........it might very well be a family member.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 11 Dec 2013 08:59

Looking at Lucy's Baptism she was born 15th Oct 1906 so this is a strong possibility....

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Lucy Holland Name: Lucy Holland
Spouse Name: Harry Jeffs
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1930
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 196


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Lucy Jeffs Name: Lucy Jeffs
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1906 <<<<<<<<<<
Date of Registration: Feb 1994
Age at Death: 87
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register Number: C10D
District and Subdistrict: 0251C
Entry number: 137

2 possible children born to this marriage.........1936 and 1945.

Check out the son on the Electoral Roll at....192.com.........if it's him, he appears with the middle name of "Holland"



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 11 Dec 2013 10:56

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about Richard H Holland Name: Richard H Holland
Mother's Maiden Surname: Whittle
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1917
Registration District: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 962


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Richard Henry Holland Name: Richard Henry Holland
Birth Date: 9 Oct 1917
Date of Registration: Aug 1984
Age at Death: 66
Registration District: Knowsley
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 36
Page: 63

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 11 Dec 2013 11:08

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Edna _ Holland Name: Edna _ Holland
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1914
Age at Death: 5
Registration District: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 923

Looking at the image, there is a middle initial which looks like an "M"

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 11 Dec 2013 21:10

Hello ???

Zoe

Zoe Report 11 Dec 2013 21:49

Hi, sorry.. Brill thanks.. Have looked into the Jeffs link with Lucy so that's filled in some gaps.. someone has also said that Baby Holland may well be Ada Holland born in 1911 in Wavertree so that is something else to follow up on. I hadn't considered that Edna had died so young.
I am very grateful for everyone's help on here!