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Ok, Thank you very much
Phyll

You don't have to order a cert, you can pay to view it on Scotlandspeople, It cheaper to view the copy on that site. I out of credits at the moment.

Bless you Maura

Great information for us, many thanks. Is it possible that you could give me a reference number for the birth of Margaret Nisbet so a certificate may be ordered?

John Sweeney married Elizabeth Nesbit 1903 Armagh
John's father John
Elizabeth father a James
There a birth on Scotlandpeople for a Margaret Nisbet 1871 Mid Calder, that should give the mothers maiden name.
Hannah Jane states she was born in Armagh, so I check the marriage for there, there is only 1 Hannah Jane married to a James Nesbit, her maiden name Walker, but the marriage is for 1886, so James could of been married twice & Hannah being the second wife.

Thank you mgnv. I think we may have all we are going to get on this one.

My friend is extremely grateful to you all for your help and says thanks.

Phyll

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Since Armagh is now in N Ireland, you can order the m.cert thru GRONI.
However, in 1903, Armagh was in Ireland, so you can also order it from Ireland, see:
http://www.groireland.ie/
If you go for the latter option, you can also choose between a regular paper cert, or the cheaper uncertified image of the GRO(I) copy of their registration.
MC's post of 20:51 7/12/13 gives the reference details you should provide to the GRO(I) or whatever they call themselves now.

No I havent come across it either....

I think this may be Margaret Gibb, the elder sister.


1901

Residents of a house 22 in Sandy's Street (Newry North Urban, Down)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Nisbet Margret Gible 25 Female Boarder Presbyterian Mid Calder, Edinburgh Managres's Book and Shoe Establishment Read and write - Not Married -
Lowans John 56 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Newry, Co Down Postmaster Superannuated Read and write - Married -
Lowans Albert Edward 27 Male Son Church of Ireland London, Middlesex Auxiliary Post Office Read and write - Not Married -
Lowans Ellen Maryann 50 Female Wife Church of Ireland London, Middlesex Nil Read and write - Married -


Had a look on scotlandspeople but not seeing a birth I'm afraid.

??? I know the age is a bit out?


Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 about Hannah Jane Nesbitt
Name: Hannah Jane Nesbitt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Death Age: 62
Registration District: Lurgan
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 561
FHL Film Number: 101602

Phyll....

Havent found any family for John Sweeney (Cork) so far....have searched 1901 census for any Sweeney who is not RC (Co Cork)...only 1 family Simon Sweeney but he is to young also he is RC but wife and children Church of Ire. No Presbyterians...
Checked through the Co Armagh also but nothing coming up....appears John was Pres.before his marriage so discounts change of Rel after his marriage...

My thanks again Eringobragh 1916. An amazing lot of information so kindly found and given.

Best wishes

Phyll

Title : Mr
Date of Death : 23 January 1930
Surname : Nisbet
Date of Grant : 24 March 1930
Forename : James
Reseal Date :
Registry : Belfast Effects : Effects £1486 13s 4d
No Image

Full Abstract :
Nisbet James of 41 Edward Street Portadown county Armagh retired gas-works manager died 23 January 1930 at Portadown Probate Belfast 24 March to James Bryson linen manufacturer and William Munro Pettigrew gas works manager. Effects £1486 13s. 4d.

He lived to be a grand age...!!

He also signed the Ulster Covenant.....

Surname Forename(s) Address Division District Place of Signing Agent View
Nisbet James 41 Edward Street Armagh: North Portadown Town Hall Wilson, J N A : Mr

You can find details on the PRONI website for both of the above.....

"Search Will Calenders"
"Ulster Covenant"

Thank you MarieCeleste, every lttle bit is of help. My regards to you Eringobragh 1916.

Phyll

Elizabeths father and an elder sister 1911...


Residents of a house 36 in Edward Street (Portadown Urban, Armagh)

Nisbet James 73 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Scotland Collector of Gas Agent Read and write - Widower - - - -
Nisbet Margeret Gibb 39 Female Daughter Presbyterian Scotland - Read and write - Single

Elis. and family 1901


Residents of a house 35 in Bridge Street (Portadown Urban, Armagh)

Nisbet James 63 Male Head of Family Father Presbyterian Scotland Gas Works Manager Read and write - Married -
Nisbet Hannah Jane 54 Female Wife Presbyterian County Armagh - Read and write - Married -
**Nisbet Elizabeth Stewart 27 Female Daughter Presbyterian County Antrim School Teacher Read and write - Not Married -***
Hewitt Mary 12 Female Servant Epescipalian County Armagh Servant Read and write

Phyll...Another pair of eyes always helps..We have all been there....!

Here's John 1901....note he is a "Druggist"


Residents of a house 8 in Market Street (Portadown Urban, Armagh)

White Fredk Wm 28 Male Head of Family Episcop Church Armagh Shop Assistant Read and write - Not Married -
***Sweeney John B 25 Male Boarder Presbyt Church Cork Druggist Read and write - Not Married -***
McClean George 20 Male Boarder Episcop Church Armagh Druggist Assistant Read and write - Not Married -
Proctor Thomas 16 Male Boarder Episcop Church Armagh Grocers Apprentice Read and write - Not Married -
Faernon Mary 34 Female Servant R C Armagh Domestic Servant Cook Read and write - Not Married

Hello Phyll, the only info on FindMyPast is the index of the marriage, there are no details - you'd need to send off for the certificate for that.

Ireland Marriages 1845-1958 Transcription

First Name:John Birchall
Last Name:Sweeney
Year:1903
Registered Quarter/Year:Jan - Mar 1903
Registration District:Armagh
Volume:1
Page:61
Potential Spouse Names:Elizabeth Stuart Nisbet
Record set:Irish Marriages 1845-1958
Category:Birth, marriage, death & parish records
Record collection:Marriages & divorces
Collections from:Ireland

Thank you for all the information. it will be a reat help to my friend. I can't believe how some of you manage to find things as you do. I must be blind or blinking stupid but when I know where to look I can find them. Many, many thanks

Regards

Phyll

Elizabeth Stuart Sweeney left a Will
she died 8th March 1947 at a hospital in London.
Administration to son.