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Samuel Pummell

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jax

jax Report 5 Dec 2013 22:28

Please could someone help me here
I am looking for the death of Samuel Pummell or Elizabeth although I am not sure she is his wife as I thought I had her dying in 1821??

He was born 1767 and married Elizabeth Crew in 1787 who I thought was born 1769.....the Elizabeth on the 1841 census would be a bit older taking into consideration the rounding up of the ages so maybe I have the wrong one?

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1841 census

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Person: PUMMELL, Samuel
Address: Crosby Row, St Mary Newington, Lambeth

PUMMELL, Samuel M 70 1771 >>Fishmonger
PUMMELL, Elizabeth F 80 1761 Surrey VIEW
PUMMELL, Henry M 35 1806 Surrey VIEW
PUMMELL, Mary F 35 1806 Surrey VIEW
PUMMELL, Henry M 15 1826 Surrey VIEW
PUMMELL, William M 4 1837 Surrey VIEW
PUMMELL, Mary F 1 1840 Surrey VIEW
LEE, Heny M 10 1831 Surrey VIEW
BURTON, Mary F 20 1821 Surrey VIEW

I would have thought they would have died in that sort of area

Thanks

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2013 22:35

I take it that they are both 'missing' from the 1851 census?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 5 Dec 2013 22:36

Jax,

Ages of those aged 15+ in the 1841 census were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 0 rather than up.

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jax

jax Report 5 Dec 2013 22:44

Yes I know what I meant Jonesey :-D He is a bit older than what the census says..

Cannot see them on 1851 Reggie ...he/they are not with his son Henry and family

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jax

jax Report 5 Dec 2013 23:09

Ummm

This could be him in 1851


1851 England Census
about Samuel Pammer
Name:
Samuel Pammer
Age:
85
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1766
Relation:
Father
Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth Pammer
Gender:
M (Male)
Where born:
Spittlefields, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:
Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Mary Abbots
County/Island:
Middlesex
Country:
England
Registration District:
Kensington

Sub-registration District:
Kensington Town

Samuel Pammer 56
Hannah Pammer 56
Hannah Pammer 33
Hannah Pammer 10
George Pammer 5
>>Samuel Pammer 85 Fishmonger
>>Elizabeth Pammer 90
Harriet Edwards 47
Maria Barham 15



Transcribed as Pommel on FMP

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jax

jax Report 5 Dec 2013 23:12

Yep don't worry I have found a death in 1852 for him and 1853 for her in Kensington

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Dec 2013 23:24

??


..London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Samuel Pummell (Bachelor)
Spouse Name: Hannah Gullyes (Spinster)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Jun 1816
Parish: Camberwell St Giles
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register
In the presence of: Robert Wheatcroft and Elizabeth Pummell

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Dec 2013 23:27

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Hannah Pummell Name: Hannah Pummell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Jan 1818
Father's Name: Samuel Pummell (Fishmonger)
Mother's Name: Hannah Pummell
Abode: Young Street
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary Abbots Church, Kensington
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Dec 2013 23:34

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about George Gullyes Pummell Name: George Gullyes Pummell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1821
Abode: High Strett
Father's Name: Samuel Pummell (Fishmonger)
Mother's Name: Hannah Pummell
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary Abbots Church, Kensington
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

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jax

jax Report 6 Dec 2013 00:10

Thanks PH

I have found what I need for this family at the moment

Plus ancestry is not playing nicely with IE11 and have to use my phone to add and delete at the moment.....not easy using a 5" screen with eye probs :-(

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