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4 Dec 2013 15:54 |
Could a kind person with FMP please look this up for me?
This is the Ancestry version:1891 Scotland Census about Richard Kirkwood Name: Richard Kirkwood Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary Kirkwood Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration number: 581 Registration District: Beith Civil Parish: Beith Town: Beith County: Ayrshire Address: Wardrop St Gateside Rd Occupation: Wood Carver ED: 6 Household Schedule Number: 193 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1891_200 Household Members: Name Age Richard Kirkwood 35 Mary Kirkwood 35 Janet Kirkwood 35 SCHOLAR Annie Kirkwood 7
I am hoping that another transcription will show that the last name is LEE and if I am correct, Janet should be 15yrs old
Thankies Anne
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4 Dec 2013 16:01 |
1891 census transcription details for: Wardrop Street Gateside Road, Beith
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 581 Folio: 6 Page: 34 Reg. District: Beith Sub District: Parish: Beith Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Wardrop Street Gateside Road, Beith County: Ayrshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born LEE, Richard Head Married M 35 1856 Wood Carver Glasgow, Lanarkshire LEE, Mary Wife Married F 35 1856 Glasgow, Lanarkshire LEE, Janet Daughter F 35 1856 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire LEE, Annie Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
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GlasgowLass
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4 Dec 2013 16:10 |
Thank you very much Astra. I knew it was them.
Whilst you were finding this, I also searched on SP ( without purchase) and found the name was indeed LEE. I suspect that the transcriber has followed another surname through the census page, resulting in Kirkwood!
It has taken 4yrs to find this family. Richard was married twice. Janet is his daughter from his 1st marrige and will be 15yrs old. I only discovered today that there was a daughter called Annie born from his 2nd marriage to Mary, simply because I stumled upon the girl's marriage. In Bradford,Yorkshire!!
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5 Dec 2013 08:01 |
Do you have the marriage record of the daughter?
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name:Annie Agnes Grant Lee
Birth Year:abt 1884
Age:19 <<Address: 42 Victor Terrace
Marriage or Bann Date:4 Aug 1903
Parish:Manningham, St Luke
Father's Name:Richard Lee <<Wood carver
Spouse's Name:John Samuel Russell <<Boot maker
Spouse's Father's Name:Alfred Russell <<Gardner
Wit: James Hudson & Florence Russell
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5 Dec 2013 08:23 |
Annie' husband
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:John Samuel Russell of: 5 Slenningford Grove, Shipley
Probate Date:13 Dec 1949
Death Date:12 Mar 1949
Death Place:Yorkshire, England
Registry:London, England
Probate to Sydney Russell, Coal Merchant £236 3s 5d
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5 Dec 2013 08:34 |
Thanks Gin, Yes I found those records yesterday. Also the 1901 marrige of her half sister Janet in Keighley, and the potential death of their father, Richard Lee in Keighley 1919. 4 year search now put to bed. Woohoo!
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Gee
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5 Dec 2013 09:33 |
Hi GL
Richard appears to be in Burnley on the 1901 census but I cant see him in 1911?
Have you managed to find him?
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Chris Ho :)
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5 Dec 2013 09:40 |
1911 (FMP) LEE, Ted Head Married M 55 1856 Wood Cerver Glasgow Scotland Resident LEE, May Wife Married29 years F 55 1856 Glasgow Scotland Resident RG number: RG14 Piece: 24790 Reference: RG14PN24790 RG78PN1421 RD472 SD1 ED12 SN29 Registration District: Burnley Sub District: East Ward Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Burnley Address: 9 Crow Court Burnley County: Lancashire
(Rd on image, not Ted!)
Chris :)
(Ped Lee on Ancestry)
(lol, and glad you asked Gins, even if GL has found it, was a pleasure to search, place is DEAD here this morning!)
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5 Dec 2013 10:11 |
OMG.......he had a very different occupation by 1911!!
1911 England Census
Name:Ped Lee <<<Rd on the record
Age in 1911:55
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1856
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Glasgow, Scotland
Civil Parish:Burnley
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street Address:9 Crow Ct Burnley
Marital Status:Married
Occupation: Word Carver !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Registration District:Burnley
Registration District Number:472
Sub-registration District:East Ward
ED, institution, or vessel:12 Household Schedule Number:29 Piece:24790
Household Members:
Ped Lee 55 May Lee 55
I'll send a correction to Ancestry
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5 Dec 2013 14:19 |
Thank you Gin and Chris, I did find Richard in Burnley at 1901. His wife and younger daughter were found in Bradford and his elder daughter was married and living in Keighley
Finally,......you found them 1911: That's my man and his wife in Burnley.
Odd how this often happens isn't it? Years of sporadic searches turn up with ... Zero. Yesterday, I was looking for a potential marrige for daughter Janet, but spotted the one for Annie Agnes Grant Lee. Good old Scottish traditions at play here.... because even although I never knew that the girl existed, I knew immediately that she was their daughter. The mother/wife had the maiden name of Mary Grant and her mother was.. Agnes! Richard's mother was Janet ( name given to the older girl) and his grandmother was Annie
Thankies to you both XX
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