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thank you mgnv, I have this info, Yes Gordon is John Kerr Tokongton's son

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
BENNETT Samuel Hall Rotherham 9c 729
ESKHOLME Mary Eliza Rotherham 9c 729
Kerr Janet Rotherham 9c 729
TORKINGTON Abner Rotherham 9c 729


1881 England Census
Civil Parish: Hastings St Mary in the Castle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Denmark Place
Registration District: Hastings
Sub-registration District: St Mary In The Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 1024 Folio: 32 Page Number: 58

Abner Torkington 38 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Head M Captain 2nd Tower Hamlets And Managing Director Of A Life Office
Janet Torkington 36 Rotherham, Yorkshire, England Wife M
John K. Torkington 8 London, Middlesex, England Son Scholar
Ellen K. Torkington 5 London, Middlesex, England Daughter
Henry K. Torkington [2m] London, Middlesex, England Son
Margarett Kerr 75 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Mother in Law W Annuitant
Ela E. Clark 29 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Servant Cook Dom


1891 England Census Transcription
Street:57 MOORGATE
Parish:ROTHERHAM
Town:ROTHERHAM
City:ROTHERHAM
County:Yorkshire
Yorkshire (West Riding)
Ecclesiastical District:ALL SAINTS
Municipal Ward:SOUTH
Parliamentary Borough:ROTHERHAM
Registration District:ROTHERHAM
Registration Sub-District 2A Rotherham
Enumeration District:6
Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:3845 Folio:117 Page:43

MARGARET HERR 1807 84 Shipley HEAD W Living on her own means
JANET TORKINGTON 1845 46 Conisboro DAUGHTER M
JOHN H TORKINGTON 1873 18 Rotherham GRANDSON S Ironmonger's Assistant
ELLEN H TORKINGTON 1876 15 Doncaster GRANDDAUGHTER Scholar
HENRY H TORKINGTON 1881 10 Rotherham GRANDSON Scholar
LUCY ALLEN 1872 19 London SERVANT S General Servant
[Conisbrough is 10km NE of Rotherham, just past midway to Doncaster]


1901 England Census Transcription
Street:MARGATE ROAD
Parish:HERNE BAY
County:Kent
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:ST MARTIN
Parliamentary Borough:ST AUGUSTINES
Registration District:BLEAN
Registration Sub-District: Herne
Enumeration District:9
Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:798 Folio:41 Page:7

JANET TORKINGTON 1847 54 ROTHERSHAM HEAD M Living on own means
JOHN TORKINGTON 1873 28 ISLINGTON SON S Solicitor
ELLEN TORKINGTON 1876 25 ISLINGTON DAUGHTER S

1911 England Census Transcription
Address:34 DOUGLAS ROAD
Parish:HERNE BAY
County:Kent
Country:ENGLAND
Registration District:BLEAN
Registration District Number:59
Registration Sub-District: Herne
SubDistrict Number:2
Enumeration District:8
Census Reference:RG14PN4359 RG78PN176 RD59 SD2 ED8 SN90

JANET TORKINGTON 1845 66 YORKS ROTHERHAM HEAD M Private Means
ELLEN KERR TORKINGTON 1876 35 LONDON ISLINGTON DAUGHTER S Private Teacher
[Marr 39 y; 4 live births; 3 still living]

Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
Torkington John Kerr Islington 1b 329

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
Torkington Ellen Kerr Islington 1b 334

Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
TORKINGTON James Kerr Islington 1b 424

Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
TORKINGTON Henry King Islington 1b 394


1891 England Census Transcription
Street:BURY STREET - 3 RUSSELL CHAMBERS
Parish:BLOOMSBURY
County:London
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:ST GEORGE BLOOMSBURY
Parliamentary Borough:HOLBORN
Registration District:ST GILES
Registration Sub-District 1B St George Bloomsbury
Enumeration District:10
Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:209 Folio:89 Page:17

ABNER TORKINGTON 1846 45 Yorks HEAD M Major school? - no occupation
MARION TORKINGTON 1858 33 City, London WIFE M



Deaths Sep 1912 (>99%)
Torkington Abner 69 Blean 2a 923

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334598


Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
TORKINGTON Gordon Robert Wandsworth 1d 658

Balham tube stn is abt 10min walk from Wandsworth Common - it looks like Gordon Robt is John K's son.

Gordon Robert Married Bessie Margaret Reeves in 1928, not sure who the others are, Oliver, or Olive Maude can't find a birth yet

The electoral registers are quite confusing!

1929 - Dulwich: Dora Torkington; Gordon Robert Torkington

1929 - Camberwell: John Kerr Torkington; Dora Torkington; Oliver Torkington

1930 - Dulwich: Gordon Robert Torkington; Bessie Margaret Torkington

1930 - Camberwell: John Kerr Torkington, Emily Olive Torkington and Maud Torkington

1932 - Camberwell: Gordon Robert Torkington; Bessie Margaret Torkington; Dora Torkington; John Kerr Torkington; Olive Maud Torkington

Perhaps Dora was a pet name for Emily. My daughter in law's name is Denise but my son calls her Doris all the time.

Worth getting the certificates for more information, definitely is 0

John Torkington
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1915
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 954

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(above has Burial of below)

Deaths Mar 1945 (>99%)
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TORKINGTON John K 73 Hampstead 1a 565

Chris :)

Hello MC I have checked that we have the correct Emily but now I have looked up the 2 births that Andrew found for John Torkington first born 1911 ( not on 1911 census) and then the second one born 1915 also in 1915 there is a death for a John Torkington but it looks like the one born 1915, I cannot find a death for the first one but why would they call the second one John also if the first one was still living?

This looks like Emily in 1901 - same birthplace as "Dora"

GUYATT, Robert Head Married M 55 1846 Warehouseman Ilford, Essex
GUYATT, Eliza Wife Married F 52 1849 London
GUYATT, Emily Daughter Single F 21 1880 Draper's Assistant Barking, Essex
GUYATT, Minnie Daughter Single F 20 1881 Milliner Barking, Essex

Piece: 1654 Folio: 68 Page: 10
Registration District: Romford
Civil Parish: Barking

Address: 46, Linton Road, Barking County: Essex

Just posting the 1911 so Dora's birthplace can be checked against Emily's

TORKINGTON, John Ken Head Married M 39 1872 Solicitor London Islington
TORKINGTON, Dora Wife Married8 years F 30 1881 Essex Barking
TORKINGTON, Gordon Son M 7 1904 Surrey Balham
TORKINGTON, Janet Daughter F 5 1906 Surrey Balham
THORNTON, Millie Single F 19 1892 Servant Kent Penge

RG number: RG14 Piece: 3415
Reference: RG14PN3415 RG78PN128 RD39 SD5 ED11 SN200
Registration District: Croydon
Sub District: Penge
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Penge

Address: 25 Royston Road County: Surrey

Married 8 year, just those 3 children born.

Thank you very much for all your help everyone

You can trace John through the Electoral roles from 1903 right up to WW2.

He also appears in the phone book as early as 1902. A solicitor based in Central London.

Andy

More children after the census

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Torkington John E Guyatt Croydon 2a 639


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
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TORKINGTON John GUYATT Camberwell 1d 1288

Andy

Just wondering if he married either Polly or Emily, but left which ever one it was, and was just living with Dora by 1911 census?

Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
Guyatt Emily Wandsworth 1d 806
Hudson Polly Wandsworth 1d 806
Radford William Henry Wandsworth 1d 806
Torkington John Kerr Wandsworth 1d 806

Here you go, PH



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
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Guyatt Emily Wandsworth 1d 806
Hudson Polly Wandsworth 1d 806
Radford William Henry Wandsworth 1d 806
Torkington John Kerr Wandsworth 1d 806


Andy

Ahh, i get it now!

Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
Guyatt Emily Wandsworth 1d 806
Hudson Polly Wandsworth 1d 806
Radford William Henry Wandsworth 1d 806
Torkington John Kerr Wandsworth 1d 806

I was looking for a John Kerr marriage in Torkington!!! :-( :-D

I'm not seeing a Kerr/Hudson/Guyatt marriage registered in 1904??

Thank you Andrew I wonder where the Dora came from. I can at least try to find out a little about Emily

According to the Electoral Role, his wife was Emily.

From info on census, this should be her birth


Births Dec 1879 (>99%)
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Guyatt Emily Romford 4a 231


Andy