Parish records may not actually give much more information. The amount of detail on these varied from parish to parish. Sometimes they only include the name of the groom and the bride and date of marriage with no further information. Sometimes the name and occupation of the bride's father is given.
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as Reggie said you will not be able to get certificates before 1855
but here is Jane's 1802 baptism for example
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB63-78Q
and you can view the original parish record at http://scotlandspeople.gov.uk for a fee
here is the Strachan Burn marriage
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTKS-VYW
and again the parish record should give you lots more information about them
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Thanks. I really appreciate all this. I have managed to get a lot of info.now . Jane Crow (Strachan) died in 1871 aged 70 Mother was Mary Burns and Father was Charles Strachan . Spouse James Crow Sailmaker. Now I can start getting some B and D certificates. Thanks again.
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Civil Registration didn't come into force in Scotland until 1855..........so you will not be able to get certs.......only baptism records
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James and Jane's daughters.
Mary Jane Crow
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 5 August 1825 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan
Christina Smith Crow
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 11 August 1831 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan
Elizabeth Greig Crow
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 26 September 1839 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan
Margaret Crow
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 8 June 1829 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan
Alexa Crow
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 13 December 1843 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan
Anne Crow
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 1 July 1827 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan
Agnes Scott Crow
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 19 September 1833 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan
Adamina Crow
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 17 August 1835 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan
So you have Smith, Scott and Greig as possible family surnames.
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This is a list from an ancestral file on familysearch of your g grandmother's children. The middle names are usually family surnames. So there appears to be a Smith, Strachan, Crow, Scott and Chalmers connection.
It's obvious where the Crow and Strachan came from.
James CROW birth: 1807 death: Jane STRACHAN birth: 1811 death:
Agnes Scott CROW birth: 19 September 1833 Montrose, Angus, Scot death: 18 May 1906 Dundee, Angus, Scot more
spouse: Joseph PETRIE christening: 7 November 1831 marriage: 12 December 1856 death: 26 May 1906
Williamina PETRIE birth: 7 September 1857 death: John PETRIE birth: 29 October 1859 death: 24 March 1866 Josephine PETRIE birth: 26 August 1862 death: 31 October 1937 James Crow PETRIE birth: 19 January 1865 death: 22 May 1915 Agnes Crow PETRIE birth: 13 March 1867 death: John Strachan PETRIE birth: 26 April 1869 death: Jeannie (Twin) PETRIE birth: about 1871 death: about 1871 -- (Twin) PETRIE birth: about 1871 death: 20 July 1871 Adamina Crow Smith PETRIE birth: 30 November 1872 death: 26 January 1873 Adam Smith PETRIE ;[twin] birth: 24 September 1875 death: Joseph (Twin) PETRIE birth: 24 September 1875 death: 2 August 1906 George Chalmers PETRIE birth: 3 December 1876 death: 17 December 1876 Isabella Chalmers PETRIE birth: about 1878 death:
EDIT Chalmers is from the Petrie line. Joseph's parents.
John Petrie birth: 10 September 1797 death: 15 August 1874 Isabella Chalmers birth: 16 October 1801 death: after 1874
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Based on the info found on Family Search , this ais the family of James Crow and Jane/Jean Strachan who married in Montrose, Angus on 7 Dec 1823. It looks as if they had a family of daughters and no sons.
As Jane was still living at 1871, there will be a statutory death record which should confirm the names of both parents. However:
father: John Strachan mother: Christian Smith*** Name ***Jean Strachan*** Gender Female Christening Date 10 Jun 1803 Christening Place FARNELL,ANGUS,SCOTLAND Birth Date 10 Jun 1803
This is the birth of James and Jame's daughter father: James Crow mother: Jane Strachan Name ***Christina Smith Crow*** Gender Female Christening Date Christening Place Birth Date 11 Aug 1831 Birthplace MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11312-4 System Origin Scotland-ODM GS Film number 993498 Reference ID
Only Jane's death cert will confirm if her parents were John Strachan and Christian/Christina Smith EDIT: I forgot to say.... pre 1855, there were no birth records kept. If you are fortunate, there may be a record of a baptism. Odd? All the children born to James and Jane can be found of FS showing only their DOB which must have come from their baptisms, yet, not one of them has a baptismal date showing ??? Are these submitted entries?
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Thank you everyone for your replies. It has helped. Their daughter Agnes Scott Crow was my gr. grandmother who married Joseph Petrie. I have been unable to find James or Jane`s birth certificates to get their parents names. Can anyone help? Thank you
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Hello Alexandra and welcome to the Community boards. :-)
I will let Alexandra know that she has replies to her query. :-)
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Possible for James - again from deceasedonline.
You can buy credits to find out who is buried in the same lair.
last name Crow first names James Burial date 11 Apr 1850 Authority Location St Marys and St Peters Churchyard (Angus) (Montrose)
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From deceasedonline who cover Angus very well
last name Crow first names Jane Burial date 17 Oct 1871 Authority Location Montrose Old Cemeteries (Angus)
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1851 Name: Jane Crow Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Montrose, forfarshire Parish Number: 312 Civil Parish: Montrose County: Angus Address: 10 Paton's Lane ED: 21 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household Schedule Number: 14 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1851_68 Household Members: Name Age Jane Crow 41 Margaret Crow 19 Christina Crow 18 Agnes Crow 16 Adamena Crow 14 Susan Crow 12 Elizabeth Crow 10 Alexa Crow 7 Mary Jane Brown 1
1861 Scotland Census about Mrs Crow Name: Mrs Crow Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Montrose, Forfarshire Registration number: 282/1 Registration District: Dundee First District Civil Parish: Dundee Town: Dundee County: Angus Address: 6 ED: 1 Household Schedule Number: 51 Line: 8 Roll: CSSCT1861_38 Household Members: Name Age Mary S Miller 30 Alese Miller 7 John Miller 5 Isabella Miller 3 Mrs Crow 57 Adamina Crow 22 Alexander Crow 17
Still living with Mary, who now appears to be her eldest daughter 1871 Scotland Census about Jane Crowe Name: Jane Crowe Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relationship: Mother Gender: Female Where born: Montrose, Forfarshire Registration number: 282/3 Registration District: St Clement Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 6 Commercial Street ED: 13 Household Schedule Number: 49 Line: 8 Roll: CSSCT1871_51 Household Members: Name Age Mary Guthrie 42 John Thompson Miller 15 Isabella Miller 13 Mary Guthrie 9 Adamina Guthrie 7 James Guthrie 3 Richard Guthrie 2 Jane Crowe 68 Elizabeth Crowe 26 Alexa Crowe 23
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What 'information' are you hoping for?
How much research have you done yourself?
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1841
Piece: SCT1841/312 Place: Montrose -Angus Enumeration District: 9 Civil Parish: Montrose Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 9 Page: 24 Address: Ramsay Street
CROW James M 35 Ropemaker Jrnyman Angus CROW Jane F 35 Angus CROW Mary F 15 Flax Spinner Angus CROW Ann F 13 Flax Spinner Angus CROW Margaret F 11 Angus CROW Christina F 9 Angus CROW Agnes F 7 Angus CROW Adamina F 5 Angus CROW Susan F 3 Angus CROW Elizabeth F 1 Angus
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If you go into the site "familysearch.org" which is a free site you will get a list of the 8 daughters that this union produced. To pursue your search further you would have to purchase credits from Scotlands People. 30 credits cost £7-00 but you are able to view the original documents.
Regards,
Doug.
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Has anyone got information on James Crow and Jane Strachan married in Montrose Scotland 1823.
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