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Thank you so much for this help! Also noticed some of the children ended up in JAPAN! Strange and a first for my tree:

Thomas Rymer Jones

Father of groom

World Miscellaneous Marriages, 1662-1945


child: Richard Oliver Rymer Jones
other: Isabella Mary Fenton, Charles Ducker Fenton
Name Richard Oliver Rymer Jones
Birth Date 1849
Birthplace
Age 24
Spouse's Name Isabella Mary Fenton
Spouse's Birth Date 1849
Spouse's Birthplace
Spouse's Age 24
Event Date 02 Aug 1873
Event Place Yedo, Japan
Father's Name Thomas Rymer Jones
Mother's Name
Spouse's Father's Name Charles Ducker Fenton
Spouse's Mother's Name
Race
Marital Status Single
Previous Wife's Name
Spouse's Race
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M01133-3
System Origin Japan-EASy
GS Film number 1494313
Reference ID p 36 & 37

Thomas Rymer Jones

Father of groom

World Miscellaneous Marriages, 1662-1945


child: Thomas Manson Rymer Jones
other: Margaret Batson Joyner, Henry St. John Joyner
Name Thomas Manson Rymer Jones
Birth Date 1840
Birthplace
Age 34
Spouse's Name Margaret Batson Joyner
Spouse's Birth Date 1843
Spouse's Birthplace
Spouse's Age 31
Event Date 30 Apr 1874
Event Place Yedo, Japan
Father's Name Thomas Rymer Jones
Mother's Name
Spouse's Father's Name Henry St. John Joyner
Spouse's Mother's Name
Race
Marital Status Single
Previous Wife's Name
Spouse's Race
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M01133-3
System Origin Japan-EASy
GS Film number 1494313
Reference ID p 48 & 49

Sorry, looks like Andy beat me to it.

This could be Elizabeth with the children in 1841:-

1841 England Census about Elizabeth Jones
Name: Elizabeth Jones
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Darley
Hundred: High Peake
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration District: Bakewell
Sub-registration District: Matlock
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 184
Book: 6
Folio: 11
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Jones 25 - not born in county ( independant)
Mary Jones 4
Eleanor Jones 3
Thomas Jones 1

Wife and some of the children in Darley High Peak Derbyshire 1841

Elizabeth Jones 25
Mary Jones 4
Eleanor Jones 3
Thomas Jones 1



Andy

His baptism:-

Thomas Rymer Jones, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Nom: Thomas Rymer Jones
Sexe: Male
Date du baptême: 22 Mar 1810
Lieu du baptême: WHITBY,YORK,ENGLAND
Date de naissance: 20 Mar 1810

Nom du père: Thomas Jones
Nom de la mère: Margaret
:
Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: C00774-4
Origine du système: England-ODM
Numéro de film: 919084


and this looks to be his wife's baptism:-


Elizabeth Nevill Manson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
baptême : 20 Octobre 1814 SAINT MARY,NOTTINGHAM,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
père: Alexander Manson
mère: Ann

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Margaret Nevill Rymer Jones
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Oct 1841
Christening Place: Darley, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: Thomas Rymer Jones
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Nevill

Name: Mary Ross Rymer Jones
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 5 Dec 1843
Christening Place: Darley, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: Thomas Rymer Jones
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Nevill

Chris :)

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries Publication:Derby Mercury
Publication date:Wednesday 28 October 1835

Thomas Rymer Jones, Esq. of Duchess Street, Portland Place, London, son of Captain Jones, late of this town, to Elizabeth Nevill, only daughter of Alexander Manson, Esq. M.D. of Not- tingham. Yesterday, at St. Alkmund.'s Church.


Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900
Name: Alexander Thomas Grist. Manson (Brother of Elizabeth)
College: TRINITY
Entered: Michs. 1835
Died: 21 Dec 1856
More Information: Adm. pens. at TRINITY, Dec. 13, 1833. [Eldest s. of Alexander, M.D., of St Mary's, Nottingham.] Matric. Michs. 1835. Adm. by incorp. at Magdalen College, Oxford, Oct. 25, 1838, age 22; B.C.L. (Oxford) 1840; D.C.L. (Oxford) 1849. Adm. at Lincoln's Inn, Oct. 2, 1835. Called to the Bar, Nov. 18, 1840. V. of Glossop, Derbyshire, 1849-56. Died Dec. 21, 1856. (Al. Oxon.; Inns of Court; Law Lists.)

Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 12 Oct 1816
Forename Alexander T Grist
Sex M
FatherForename Alexander
MotherForename Ann
FatherSurname MANSON
MotherSurname
Abode Mary Gate
FatherOccupation Physician

(from below, also others)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Baptisms for some of the children:-

Mary Ann Elizabeth Rymer Jones
30 Aug 1836 Thomas Rymer Jones,
Elizabeth Nevill Jones Langham Westminster

Eleanor Langbourne Rymer Jones
20 May 1838 Thomas Rymer Jones,
Elizabeth Nevill Jones Camberwell St Giles Southwark

Alexander Manson Rymer Jones
6 Aug 1845 Thomas Rymer Jones,
Elizabeth Nevill Jones St Pancras Camden

Alexander Manson Rymer Jones
6 Aug 1845 Thomas Rymer Jones,
Elizabeth Naim Jones Camden Town All Saints Camden

Frederick William Owen Ryan Jones
4 Aug 1847 Thomas Rymer Jones,
Elizabeth Nevill Jones Finchley St Mary Barnet

Fredericke William Owen Rymer Jones
4 Aug 1847 Thomas Rymer Jones,
Elizabeth Neville Jones Whetstone Barnet

Edith Rymer Jones
11 Sep 1855 Thomas Rymer Jones,
Elizabeth Nevill Jones Bloomsbury St George Camden

Ada Bryant Rymer Jones
16 Mar 1860 Thomas Rymer Jones,
Elizabeth Nevill Jones Paddington St Saviour Westminster

1881 England Census about Elizh. N. Jones
Name: Elizh. N. Jones
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Notingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 22 Castletown Road
Marital Status: Windower (Widower)

Registration District: Fulham
Sub-registration District: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 66
Folio: 57
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizh. N. Jones 66
Eleonar R. Jones 42
Mary A.R. Jones 36
Ada R. Jones 21
Lydia J. Harvey 18
S. Smith 18


And Elizabeth's death:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Elizabeth Nevill R Jones
Name: Elizabeth Nevill R Jones
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1891
Age at Death: 76
Registration District: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 254

1871 gives the names of some of the children:-

1871 England Census about Thomas R Jones
Name: Thomas R Jones
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth R Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Kensington
Sub-registration District: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 38b
Household Schedule Number: 538
Piece: 45
Folio: 91
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas R Jones 61
Elizabeth R Jones 56
Thomas M R Jones 30
Eleanor S R Jones 32
May R R Jones 27
Frederick Fon Jones 23
Richard O R Jones 21
John R Jones 19
Ada R Jones 11
Ernestine Rodwell 28
Eliza Hart 23

Here he is in 1851:-

1851 England Census about Thomas R Jones
Name: Thomas R Jones
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth M Jones
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Whitley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Profesor in Kings College, London

Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-registration District: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 6
Piece: 1578
Folio: 221
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas R Jones 41 - (Noted as being absent)
Elizabeth M Jones 36
Mick E R Jones 14
E R Jones 12
T M R Jones 11
M M B Jones 9
M R R Jones 7
A M R Jones 5
F N C R Jones 3
R B R Jones 1
Mary Britt 17

He is fairly easy to find in the previous censuses, you need to take out that trial ancestry/FMP subscription, or update genes membership.

Probate was restated in 1892 to Richard Oliver Rymer Jones, Civil Engineer

Andy

Thank you Andy - first sign of something!

It is a shame he died just before the 1881 census.

Peter

According to Ancestry trees he married Elizabeth Nevill Manson in 1835 and they had 11 children betewwen 1834 and 1860

You can view these trees on the Ancestry sister site for free via this link

https://www.mundia.com/gb

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Thomas Rymer Jones

Name:Thomas Rymer Jones
Probate Date:14 Apr 1881
Death Date:10 Dec 1880
Death Place:Middlesex, England
Registry:Principal Registry



to Elizabeth Neville Jones his Widow, so he did marry at some point.
Effects under £300

Andy

Hi there,

I have just discovered a VERY distant cousin of mine, Thomas Rymer Jones (1810-Whitby - 1880 in London) was a surgeon and then zoologist and was a FRS. He has a brass memorial in London University. More on his proffesional career can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Rymer_Jones

His mother is a distant relative of mine and although I have a lot of information on her family, I am looking to see if Thomas married and is he had any descendants.

Can you help?

Thank you,

Peter