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Hi there, I am trying to find a connection between these two people Charles Watson (born c. 1801) and Elizabeth Watson (born c. 1840):

The Langburn people are my relatives and no further research is needed on them thank you. I am just trying to see if Charles and Elizabeth are related:

The York Herald (York, England), Saturday, January 06, 1872
CASTLETON - DEATH OF TWO FRIENDS: Mr. John Langburn and Mr. Charles Watson, after living together in this village for the last fifty years, both died a few days ago-the former, on the last day of December, aged 78, and the latter on the 2nd January, aged 70. They were buried on the same day in one grave.

The North-Eastern Daily Gazette (Middlesbrough, England), Thursday, March 26, 1896
ATTEMPTED SUICIDE AT CASTLETON – A lady of independent means named Miss Elizabeth Watson (56), who has for several years resided with Miss Langburn at a farm close to Castleton Station, yesterday attempted to drown herself. She left the house apparently in her usual good health and spirits, but as she was absent a considerable time a search was made, with the result that she was found lying in about four feet of water in the river Esk. After being got out, and on being questioned by the police after regaining consciousness, Miss Watson stated that “she could not help it; she had an impulse that she had to drown herself at once”.

Miss Langburn was Jane Langburn (1851-1919) and John Langburn (1794-1871) was Jane's father's cousin.

Thanks,

Peter

1901
...at 5 Arncliffe View

Name: Jane Langburn
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Danby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Glaisdale
Ecclesiastical parish: Glaisdale St Thomas
Town: Glaisdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:


Registration District: Whitby
Sub-registration District: Egton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 26
Piece: 4558
Folio: 103
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Langburn 49
Eliza Watson 59 ............................shown as Aunt

On that 1901 Census .............

Household Members: Name Age
Jane Langburn 49 Single, Retired Farmer
Eliza Watson 59 b.ca 1842, Danby, Yorkshire, Single, Retired Housekeeper

Address:- 5 Arncliffe View


They are still living together in 1911

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1881 Census

Name: Eliza Watson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Danby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Danby and Commondale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Occupation: General Servant

Registration District: Guisborough
Sub-registration District: Danby

Eliza Watson 40 Unmarried, General Servant
Charles Watson 16 b.ca 1865, Danby, Son, Railway Clerk


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1871 Census

Name: Eliza Watson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Danby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Commondale
Ecclesiastical parish: Danby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration District: Guisborough
Sub-registration District: Danby

Jno Frent Ellerby 65 b.ca 1806, Glazedale, Yorkshire, Head, Farmer of 20 acres
Elizabeth Ellerby 48 b.ca 1823, Danby, Wife (nee Elizabeth Watson)
Jno Frenk Ellerby 18
Ann Harrison 30 Domestic Servant
Thomas Watson 73 b. ca 1798, Trarudall, Yorkshire, Father-in-law, Widower, Farm Servant
Eliza Watson 30 Domestic Servant
Walter Chas Watson 6 b.ca 1865, Danby, Lodger, Scholar
Annie Eliza Watson 5 b.ca 1866, Danby, Lodger, Scholar

Address:- Scale Foot



1861 Census

Name: Eliza Watson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Danby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Danby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration District: Guisbrough
Sub-registration District: Danby

George Langburn 42 b.ca 1819, Danby
Judith Langburn 40 b.ca 1821, Danby
John W Langburn 13 b.ca 1848, Danby
Jane Langburn 9 b.ca 1852, Danby
Eliza Watson 20 House Servant

Address:- Park Nook




1851 Census

Name: Eliza Watson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Sister
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Danby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Danby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration District: Guisbrough
Sub-registration District: Lofthouse

Thomas Watson 26 b.ca 1825, Danby, Head, Unmarried, Agricultural Labourer
Judith Wilson 80 b.ca 1771, Rosedale, Yorkshire, Widow, House Servant
John Watson 13 b.ca 1838, Danby, Brother, Scholar
Eliza Watson 10

Address:- Park Nuke

Next door are George and Judith Langburn




not sure where we've got to with that little lot!!!!

For information .......................


1871 Census

Name: Charles Watson
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Danby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Danby
Ecclesiastical parish: Danby
Town: Castleton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration District: Guisborough
Sub-registration District: Danby

John Longburn 74 b.ca 1797, Danby, Unmarried, Retired Butcher
Charles Watson 70 Unmarried, Retired Lawyer




Peter ................... I would note that I found the Probate Record of this same John Longburn as LONGBURN, not Langburn


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about John Longburn

Name: John Longburn
Probate Date: 10 Feb 1872
Death Date: 31 Dec 1871
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: Yorkshire, England

His will was proved by his nephew Harland Langborne of Westerdale.

Effects under £450

I'm playing around now!


from familysearch



Charles Appleby Watson, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"

Name: Charles Appleby Watson
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 12 Aug 1802
Christening Place: DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 1799
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Watson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00750-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 432131
Reference ID:



Eliza Watson's father seemed to be Thomas Watson, b.ca 1825, Danby


These are the Watson Births, baptized in Danby between 1795 and 1830.

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Hannah Watson
christening: 30 May 1814 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: William Watson mother: Sarah

Thomas Watson
christening: 2 September 1822 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: George Watson
mother: Mary

Betsey Watson
christening: 16 January 1821 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Robert Watson
mother: Hannah

Mary Ann Watson
christening: 29 June 1815 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
mother: Elizabeth Watson

Mary Watson
christening: 12 January 1823 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Robert Watson
mother: Hannah

Ann Hodgson Or Watson
christening: 3 February 1796 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
mother: Jane Hodgson Or Watson

Sarah Ann Watson
christening: 4 February 1809 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Thomas Watson

John Watson
christening: 8 May 1805 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Jonathan Watson

Francis Watson
christening: 17 March 1824 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: George Watson
mother: Mary

Thomas Watson
christening: 2 May 1824 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Thomas Watson
mother: Jane

Charles Appleby Watson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 1799
christening: 12 August 1802 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
mother: Elizabeth Watson

Betty Watson
christening: 7 August 1803 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Jonathan Watson

Robert Watson
christening: 22 May 1815 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Robert Watson
mother: Hannah

William Watson
christening: 28 February 1818 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: William Watson
mother: Sarah

George Watson
christening: 14 May 1824 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: William Watson
mother: Mary

Robert Watson
christening: 1 October 1807 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Jonathan Watson

Thomas Watson
christening: 26 January 1805 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Thomas Watson

Hannah Watson
christening: 15 July 1824 DANBY IN CLEVELAND,YORK,ENGLAND
father: Robert Watson
mother: Hanna



There doesn't seem to be a sibling relationship between Charles and Thomas ............. plus the fact that Charles was apparently a Retired Lawyer on that 1871 Census and Thomas as an Agricultural Labourer.

Incidentally, I cannot find John and Charles together on any other census, despite that newspaper report that said they had lived together for over 50 years!

In 1841, John age 40, Butcher, is living with his father Nathaniel age 75 in Castleton

In 1861, what appears to be the same John is living with John and Mary Miller, age 65, Retired Farmer


In 1841, what appears to be this Charles Watson is living by himself in Church Street Guisborough, age 35, of Independent Means.

In 1851, a Charles Watson, age 50, Gentleman, is a visitor, staying at a pub in Whitby



and that is about it!!!

Hi Sylvia and thank you so much - yeah, all of your Langburn work is correct and you have noticed the Longburn/Longborn/Langburn/Langburne variations.

The family name changes a LOT, as you can imagine - even John's surname on his probate differs from that of his nephew.

It is late here and I must get to sleep but will look into this tomorrow. Thank you again!

Peter

Interestingly, I have in my notes the marriage of George Langburn and Judith WILSON being 19 Aug 1839 in Waddington, Whitby ... this was passed on without a reference. However, I have just looked on familysearch and it seems that this could be their marriage:


George Langburn, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: George Langburn
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Judith Wilson
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 22 Aug 1846
Event Place: Holy Trinity Church, Hull, York, England
Father's Name: Michael Langburn
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Wilson
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01256-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1702265
Reference ID: Page 149; #297

But they had a child Thomas baptised in 1844 in Danby, who tragically died in Danby two weeks before this 'remarriage' after he fell into some burning rubbish and his clothes set alight.

Might that have something to do with the wedding?

Also, Judith's name is WILSON not WATSON, as I had assumed that Eliza Watson may have been a sister of her? That is also from the 1901 census when she is with Jane Langburn (George and Judith's daughter).

Hmmm any ideas?!