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Help please! Charles Johnson

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JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Nov 2013 22:13

What does the marriage certificate say his occupation was? and his father's?
Probably the witnesses are from the bride's side?
Any info like that that you have, but nobody else does, could help! :-)

Does his age in the photograph seem to tally with his stated age in 1918? (or was he just 'old' ...) Do you know about when it was taken, for an idea of when he was still 'in the picture' so to speak?

and as GlitterBaby says was he the informant on Beatrice's death certificate? if you know he was not around by 1987 then probably not. Beatrice was quite a good age when she died then, born in 1892, so 26ish when she married and 95 when she died. Almost certainly Charles would not have lived that long.

Sometimes a father with the same name on a marriage certificate did mean a made-up father ... could be the person didn't know their father's name, or the person was concealing their real identity and maybe even their real name ... maybe if they were already married, or had deserted from the military, are common reasons.

Knowing his occupation could really help find him in 1911 as he would already have been 20 by then at least and working.

Have you checked out the Charles Johnson born about 1878 who died in 1948 in Newcastle upon Tyne where Beatrice died? if your Charles's death certificate was signed by Beatrice that could help considerably.

John

John Report 18 Nov 2013 21:44

Glitterbaby: She died in 1987 not 57.

Porkie_Pie: He gives his fathers name as Charles Johnson which does not help. I have been able to trace his children and what happen to them, how they moved around Newcastle and area, even have a photo of him at one daughter's wedding, Seems as if he was a bit of a bad egg according to living relatives, but they do not know when he died and where.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 18 Nov 2013 20:42

Have you looked for him with family on the 1901/11 census using his fathers details off the marriage cert

Roy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Nov 2013 20:37

Was her death in 1957 ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Nov 2013 20:34

Do you have any idea of when Beatrice died and was Charles the informant

With such a common name and no middle name it will be like looking for a needle in a haystack

John

John Report 18 Nov 2013 20:18

Really just about to give up having sought information for 4 years. My aunt Beatrice French married a Charles Johnson in Watford, December 1918. They had five children and lived in Newcastle upon Tyne. It seems that the information on the marriage certificate does not tally with what a living relative has told me. According to the certificate he was born c1890 but the relative believes him to be older. Seemingly there was degree of ill-feeling towards him, and no-one can even say when or where he died, although they think he could have been born in Ireland.

Any help would be received with thanks.