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Wrong father's name on certificate?!

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Peter

Peter Report 17 Nov 2013 18:06

Thank you Martynsue - so lovely to see someone else has this problem. Very kind of you to share that.

martynsue

martynsue Report 17 Nov 2013 17:58

peter I can understand your problem,my husbands g grandfather put his father name as Benjamin on his marriage cert,only problem is that his father was Samuel.
all the records verify this so who knows why he did this,it is so annoying.

Peter

Peter Report 17 Nov 2013 17:41

No Holly, not a waste - all of my threads ask very specific questions.

Many years ago I used to one thread for the same family (i.e. looking at siblings, and even cousins etc), which the inclusion of these two threads would suggest is the best way to manage this. I was told that was the wrong way to do it, hence why since then, I have always started a new thread.

A lot of the information on these threads, although I am VERY grateful for it, does not pertain to my initial question, hence why it seems the threads are often more closely related than they actually are.

So, no, I don't think it is a waste of member's time at all.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Nov 2013 17:05

And another one.....

http://www.mygenesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1295422

What a complete and utter waste of members valuable time!

Peter

Peter Report 17 Nov 2013 16:45

Thanks Stuart. So any ideas?

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2013 16:28

Previous thread amongst others about Mary

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1320651

Peter

Peter Report 17 Nov 2013 16:20

nudge

Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2013 22:06

Roy, no can't see a SUSPECTED Anthony Reed SNR on the 1841 census or 1851 census - can you? Is that what you mean?

And yes Shirely, I am sure the census for Anthony are for Mary's brother. However, is the baptism in 1813 in Yarm correct for her when her marriage certificate so obviously contradicts that?

What do you think? I just don't want to go down the wrong line.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2013 18:28

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Anthony%20Reed&grave=35702&personid=69007&db=35702

(Anthony Burial above?)

Chris :)

Dea

Dea Report 16 Nov 2013 16:37

Roy,

The 1839 marriage was to William Robinson.

Possibly this family on 1841:

1841 census transcription details for: Fishburn, Sedgefield, Fishburn
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 316
Book/Folio: 4/5
Page: 4
Reg. District: Stockton & Sedgefield
Sub District: Sedgefield
Parish: Sedgefield
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Fishburn, Sedgefield, Fishburn
County: Durham
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ROBINSON, William M 25 1816 Durham
ROBINSON, Mary F 20 1821 Durham
ROBINSON, Francis M 1 1840 Durham
WASS, Sarah F 25 1816 Durham

Don't know who her father was though.

Dea Xxx

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2013 13:08

1861 England Census about Anthony Reed
Name: Anthony Reed
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Reed
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarm, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sadberge
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:ag lab and victualler

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Darlington
Sub-registration District: Aycliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 12
Piece: 3684
Folio: 130
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Anthony Reed 38
Ann Reed 36
Sarah Reed 6
Mary Reed 4
Ann Reed 1

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3684; Folio: 130; Page: 2; GSU roll: 54317

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 16 Nov 2013 13:05

Who did this Mary Reed belong to and who did she marry?

Marriages Jun 1839
REED Mary Stockton &c. 24 193

Roy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2013 13:04

1851 England Census about Anthony Reed
Name: Anthony Reed
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Brother
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Yarm, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Long Newton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Stockton
Sub-registration District: Yarm
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 15
Piece: 2383
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
William Reed 32
Esther Reed 30
James Reed 9
Thomas Reed 5
John Reed 3
Richard Reed 1
Anthony Reed 28
Mary Ann Dinsdale 7 niece
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2383; Folio: 5; Page: 3; GSU roll: 87061.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Nov 2013 13:01

this could be her brother


1841 census
Name: Anthony Reed
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Hart
Hundred: Stockton (North East Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:ag lab

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Registration District: Stockton and Sedgefield
Sub-registration District: Hartlepool
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 315
Book: 18
Folio: 2
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Anthony Reed 20
Hannah Coulter 15
John Goy 13

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 315; Book: 18; Civil Parish: Hart; County: Durham; Enumeration

working on the farm of a Robert Dodds

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 16 Nov 2013 12:49

Can you find Anthony Reed/Read farmer on the 1841/51 census? in the Stockton/Yarm area

Roy

Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2013 11:34

Hi Gins, the witnesses are John Leadbitten and Philip Barry and Mary's father, 'Anthony Reed, Farmer'.

Hmmm, so I do I go with James Reed of Yarm or Anthony Reed of Leeds?!

Ahhhhh so complicated.

Dea

Dea Report 16 Nov 2013 11:01

Other children of James and Sarah:

Thomas Reed

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 29 December 1816 YARM,YORK,ENGLAND


father: James Reed
mother: Sarah


Anthony Reed

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 20 March 1821 YARM,YORK,ENGLAND


father: James Reed
mother: Sarah


Elizabeth Reed

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 29 December 1816 YARM,YORK,ENGLAND


father: James Reed
mother: Sarah


Richard Reed

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 27 May 1808 YARM,YORK,ENGLAND


father: James Reed
mother: Sarah



James Reed

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 26 June 1811 YARM,YORK,ENGLAND


father: James Reed
mother: Sarah



Sarah Reed

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 9 December 1819 YARM,YORK,ENGLAND


father: James Reed
mother: Sarah


Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 16 Nov 2013 10:35

I can see a marriage for a Sarah Towers to a JAMES Reed in Kirk Leavington which is ver near to Yarm:

Sarah Towers, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Name: James Reed
Spouse's Name: Sarah Towers

Event Date: 1804
Event Place: Kirk Leavington, York, England


Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M10550-3
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1546299
Reference ID: 2:1H6KKGT


and this christening:

Mary Reed, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Mary Reed
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 21 Jul 1815
Christening Place: YARM,YORK,ENGLAND

Father's Name: James Reed
Mother's Name: Sarah

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10601-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919090
Reference ID:


This is the only christening I can see for a Mary with father Anthony but it in Leeds!

Mary Read, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Mary Read
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 01 Sep 1812
Christening Place: SAINT PETER,LEEDS,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1812

Father's Name: Anthony Read

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00962-7
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 918378
Reference ID:

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Nov 2013 09:50

She could have given her brother's name, by mistake

She could also have been illegitimate, and invented a father

Gee

Gee Report 16 Nov 2013 09:15

Hi

Who are the witnesses on the marriage certificate please?

Is the listed as deceased?