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Margo
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15 Nov 2013 23:20 |
Lived in Hebburn/Jarrow and married Henry Brown. I am trying to find her father's name, She was the half sister of my grandmother Margaret Tate and her sister Mary. I cannot trace her father. I would be grateful for some help :-)
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patchem
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15 Nov 2013 23:30 |
Could you give a few dates, please?
Do you not know the name of your grandmother's father - surely it would be the same if they are both Tates?
Thank-you
Added: For ref: Marriages Dec 1930 Brown Henry Tate S. Shields 10a 1568 Tate Ellen Brown S. Shields 10a 1568
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brummiejan
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15 Nov 2013 23:31 |
Just to place them:
Marriages Dec 1930 (>99%) Brown Henry Tate S. Shields 10a 1568 Tate Ellen Brown S. Shields 10a 1568
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patchem
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15 Nov 2013 23:33 |
The father's name should be on the marriage certificate.....
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ErikaH
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16 Nov 2013 10:12 |
How can you not know the father's name if the surname was the same as the half-sisters?
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16 Nov 2013 10:14 |
1911 census
Person: TATE, Ellen Address: 2 Railway St Hebburn Colly
TATE, Thomas Head Married M 48 1863 Fore Overman Miner Sherburn Hill Durham VIEW TATE, Mariel Wife Married18 years F 40 1871 Hebburn Colliery Durham VIEW TATE, Mary Daughter Single F 17 1894 Hebburn Colliery Durham VIEW TATE, Thomas Son Single M 12 1899 Hebburn Colliery Durham VIEW TATE, Isaac Son Single M 9 1902 Hebburn Colliery Durham VIEW TATE, Ellen Daughter Single F 6 1905 Hebburn Colliery Durham
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PricklyHolly
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16 Nov 2013 10:25 |
It seems then that Margaret is the daughter of Thomas's first marriage and the other children are from Thomas's second marriage to Mariah/Maria.
..1901 England Census about Thomas Tate Name: Thomas Tate Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mariah Tate Gender: Male Where born: Sherburn, Durham, England Civil Parish: Hebburn Ecclesiastical parish: Hebburn St Oswald County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: South Shields Sub-registration District: Jarrow ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 194 Piece: 4745 Folio: 48 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Tate 38 Mariah Tate 30 Margaret A Tate 12 Mary Tate 7 Thomas Tate 2 1891 England Census about Thomas Tate Name: Thomas Tate Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's Name: Simon Tate Gender: Male Where born: Sherburn; Hill, Durham, England Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow Ecclesiastical parish: St Oswalds Town: Hebburn Colliery County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: South Shields Sub-registration District: South Shields ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4169 Folio: 8 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Simon Tate 62 Thomas Tate 28 (Widower) Margaret A Tate 2
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PricklyHolly
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16 Nov 2013 10:32 |
I'm not seeing a marriage to a "Mariah"
This is the closest i can find.......
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Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%) LIDDLE Maria S. Shields 10a 1180 TATE Thomas S. Shields 10a 1180
Possible an error?
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16 Nov 2013 10:47 |
If the details posted so far are the right family, surely it is your grandmother Margaret who was the half sibling - all children with the same father, but later children with his new wife? There is this marriage:
Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gillan Catherine South Shields 10a 914 Handyside Margaret Ann S. Shields 10a 914 99%)<<< LYDON John S. Shields 10a 914 Tate Thomas S.Shields 10a 914 <<<
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TATE Margaret Ann 24 S. Shields 10a 353
Added, don't know what's going wrong with copy paste - but the above is a death reg Sept qtr 1888.
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PricklyHolly
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16 Nov 2013 10:58 |
There is not a birth registered for a Mariah Liddle or a death registered for a Mariah Tate........which makes me wonder if she just preferred the name Mariah?
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Births Dec 1871 (>99%) Liddle Maria S. Shields 10a 694
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PricklyHolly
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16 Nov 2013 11:09 |
I see that Thomas Tate died in 1919..
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Thomas Tate Name: Thomas Tate Birth Date: abt 1863 Date of Registration: Sep 1919 Age at Death: 56 Registration District: South Shields Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 750 "IF" i am on the right track.........a remarriage for Maria....
..England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Maria Tate Name: Maria Tate Spouse Name: William Welch Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921 Registration District: South Shields Inferred County: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 1666
..England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Maria Welch Name: Maria Welch Birth Date: abt 1871 Date of Registration: Dec 1952 Age at Death: 81 Registration District: Durham North eastern Inferred County: Durham Volume: 1a Page: 490
You will need to purchase one of the childrens birth certs to be certain of the mothers maden name.
Prickles.
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16 Nov 2013 11:17 |
And this birth,
Births Jun 1864 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HANDISIDE Margaret Ann Tynemouth 10b 180
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PricklyHolly
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16 Nov 2013 11:25 |
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..1891 England Census about Maria Liddle Name: Maria Liddle Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Hebburn, Durham, England Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow Ecclesiastical parish: St Oswalds Town: Hebburn Colliery County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: South Shields Sub-registration District: South Shields ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4169 Folio: 28 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Liddle 54 Jane Liddle 55 William Liddle 30 Thomas Liddle 25 Ellen Liddle 23 Mary A Liddle 18 Issac Liddle 48 (Brother...Married) Coal Miner...Thornley Durham Maria Liddle 19
1881 England Census about Maria Liddle Name: Maria Liddle Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relationship to Head: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Hebburn, Durham, England Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 38 Railway St Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: South Shields Sub-registration District: South Shields ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5027 Folio: 95 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age George Lister Yates 41 Maria Yates 63 Ellen Champley 10 Isac Liddle 37 (Married) Maria Liddle 9
Res: 38 Railway Street........living at 36 Railway Street is Brother Thomas and wife Jane who Isaac and Maria are living with in 1891.
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Margo
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18 Nov 2013 20:45 |
Once again I would like to thank you all for the info you have given me I am very grateful Regards Margo :-)
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