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Not clutter at all Joonie, I personally think comments and thoughts are very useful and have learned a lot from posters on here over the years who do just that. :-D

Would welcome a red cheeked emoticon

I'm sorry about the deletion, I thought it had become redundant because Yvonne had answered the questions I had and posted the same info, about where Fred was born ... and after finding him as Fred in the 1891 and 1911 censuses, not Frederick, I somehow had not found the marriage that Rose found (is there an embarrased face?) and then when I did she had posted it already ... so I thought I was just cluttering up the thread ... as I am now for sure :-D

Sorry Yvonne, I had misread a post that is now deleted. Yes, the ages do follow through.

This gives info about where information for Yealmpton can be obtained.

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Yealmpton/

My apologies - I was looking at wrong Gosling when I mentioned the children above. Hope it didn't confuse.

Yvonne

Thanks everyone for your help. RR, that is the correct birth for Fred.

Yvonne

possible birth, Plympton covers Yealmpton

Births Jun 1863 (>99%)

GOSLING Frederick Plympton 5b 211

Yes, that's them in the 1911 census. I'm not sure what you mean about the age of the eldest child. In 1891 they didn't have children and the child that was 4 in the 1901 census was 14 in the 1911. I have them in all the censuses but couldn't find the actual marriage reference.

Thanks.

Although the eldest child was 13, not 4 on the 1901:

GOSLING, Fred Head Married M 36 1865 Chair Maker Dunstone, Devonshire
GOSLING, Ellen J Wife Married F 34 1867 Birmingham, Warwickshire
GOSLING, Emily Daughter F 13 1888 Bristol, Gloucestershire
GOSLING, Fred Son M 11 1890 Birmingham, Warwickshire
GOSLING, Clara Daughter F 6 1895 Plymouth, Devonshire
GOSLING, Ernest Son M 1 1900 Birmingham, Warwickshire

Piece: 2864 Folio: 30 Page: 18
Registration District: Aston
Civil Parish: Aston

Address: 11, 2, Green Lane Beech Grove, Aston County: Warwickshire

Clara's birthplace has varied .....

EDIT: Misread the post Joonie had, of course, said it was the 1891 and not the 1901.

As RR says.............use freebmd.................easiest and best for info between 1837 and c1955 (with a few gaps during WW2)

Based on the post now deleted (but very helpful):

So little information ... ! Is she the Ellen wife of Fred in Birmingham in 1891? In 1911 it says they have been married 24 years (the eldest child was 23 and was 4 on the 1891). Is that where the supposed 1886 date comes from? But people told porkies on censuses all the time, especially if they had children and were not married. He was from Devon ... I don't see a marriage that fits that couple ...
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This must be the 1911 in question:

GOSLING, Fred Head Married M 46 1865 Furniture Repairer Yealmpton Devon
GOSLING, Ellen Wife Married 24 years F 44 1867 Birmingham
GOSLING, Emily Daughter Single F 23 1888 Bristol Glocestershire
GOSLING, Clara Daughter Single F 16 1895 Domestic Nurse Birmingham
GOSLING, Ernest Son M 11 1900 School Birmingham
GOSLING, Winifred Daughter F 5 1906 School Birmingham

RG number: RG14 Piece: 18650
Reference: RG14PN18650 RG78PN1115 RD392 SD1 ED12 SN8
Registration District: Solihull
Sub District: Solihull
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Yardley

Address: 2 Lyttleton Road Stechford County: Warwickshire

It's on Freebmd Yvonne, I always look there first as it is just the easiest search.

Barton Regis was "Abolished : 1.1.1905 (to become part of Bristol, Thornbury, and Chipping Sodbury registration districts).

Thanks Rambling Rose, you're wonderful. Where did you find it? Where is Barton?

Yvonne

District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%)
Gosling Fred Barton R. 6a 202

OSBORNE Ellen Barton R. 6a 202

Thanks Reggie. I've looked in Ancestry and FMP but couldn't find anything. I'm not sure where the marriage took place because Fred Gosling was born in Yealmpton, Devon, and Ellen Osborne was born in Birmingham (above birth probably correct), but their first child was born in Bristol then they moved to Birmingham.

Is this the woman?

Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
OSBORNE Ellen Jane Walsall 6b 654

Where have you looked?

.....and what is the location??

Did they produce offspring?

Can anyone help me find the marriage of Ellen Jane Osborne (b. abt 1865) to Frederick Gosling (b. abt 1863). The marriage is supposed to have taken place in 1886 but I can't find a record of it.
Thanks
Yvonne