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16 Nov 2013 07:49 |
YES CHRISTINA MARIA IS MARY MARGARET'S SISTER
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Christina(Lancashire)
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15 Nov 2013 19:13 |
Emily in 1901?
1901 England Census Name: Emily Schofield Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Adopted Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Philadelphia, United States Civil Parish: Middleton Ecclesiastical parish: Middleton St Leonard County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:.....21 Pleasant Springs?
Registration District: Oldham Sub-registration District: Middleton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 27 Piece: 3825 Folio: 29 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Charles Oddy 40......Head ....Plumber.....Rochdale Maria Oddy 36.....Wife.....Calico Weaver.....Egremont, Cumberland Emily Schofield 11
Is Maria Mary Margaret's sister?
Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%) Holt James Rochdale 8e 119 >>>>>Oddy Charles William Rochdale 8e 119 >>>>>WALKER Maria Rochdale 8e 119 Worrall Alice Rochdale 8e 119
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15 Nov 2013 14:28 |
Thanks ArgyllGran for info.
Diane
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15 Nov 2013 14:26 |
Thanks Christina I think that you are probably right about their return as my Grandfather John Schofield is in the 1901 Census living with his Aunt.
Thanks for all info
Diane
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Christina(Lancashire)
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12 Nov 2013 19:29 |
Lilly's baptism. Parents are named as Mr & Mrs John Bromley.....
Pennsylvania, Church and Town Records, 1708-1985 Name: Lilly Jennetta Bromley Birth Date: 5 Apr 1894 Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 6 Dec 1894 Baptism Place: Doylestown, Bucks, Pennsylvania Father Name: John Bromley Organization Name: St Paul´s Episcopal Church
Baptised on the same day is her (half?) sibling, your grandfather's (full?) sister......
Pennsylvania, Church and Town Records, 1708-1985 about Emily Schofield Bromley Name: Emily Schofield Bromley Birth Date: 17 Sep 1839......Birth year is 1889 on the image. Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 6 Dec 1894 Baptism Place: Doylestown, Bucks, Pennsylvania Father Name: John Bromley Organization Name: St Paul´s Episcopal Church
So the family returned to England between 6th December 1894 & 5th August 1896 (Annie's birth).
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12 Nov 2013 12:20 |
Daughter Annie ??:
1911 England Census about Annie Bromley Name: Annie Bromley Age in 1911: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Female Birth Place: Midleton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 2 Elder Berry Place Rochdale Marital Status: Single Occupation: Winder Registration District: Rochdale Registration District Number: 470 Sub-registration District: Spotland and Norden ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 24640 Household Members: Name Age Albert Clegg 65 Harmesh Clegg 69 Annie Bromley 14 William Hargraves 49
Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%) Bromley Annie Ogden Rochdale 8e 59 Ogden Willie Bromley Rochdale 8e 59
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Willie Ogden Name: Willie Ogden Birth Date: 1 Jan 1897 Date of Registration: Sep 1972 Age at Death: 75 Registration District: Rochdale Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10f Page: 792
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Annie Ogden Name: Annie Ogden Birth Date: 5 Aug 1896 Date of Registration: Oct 1987 Age at Death: 91 Registration District: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 39 Page: 715
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Diane
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12 Nov 2013 08:56 |
Thanks to you all so sorry if got you all confused with putting things in the wrong place, I will know if future. Going to get on with the leads you have all given me.
Thanks again Diane
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Christina(Lancashire)
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12 Nov 2013 00:14 |
The 1901 & 1911 census for John doesn't appear to have been found on any of the other threads, but as Marie has already said, Dianne, it's much better to keep all the info on one thread so we can all see what has been found already. Makes it easier to help you. :-)
Looks like John & Mary Margaret had another daughter soon after they arrived back in England......
1901 England Census Name: John Blomley Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale Ecclesiastical parish: Balderstone St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:....13 Back Watkin Street
Registration District: Rochdale Sub-registration District: Castleton Further ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 349 Piece: 3833 Folio: 116 Page Number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Emma Buckley 42.....Head....Widow....Littleborough, Lancashire George Buckley 14.....Son.....Rochdale Walter Buckley 12.....Son....Rochale Fred Buckley 9.....Son....Rochdale John Blomley 39.....Boarder.....Widower....Stonemason Lilly Blomley 7......Boarder......America (British Subject) Annie Blomley 6.....Boarder.....Middleton, Lancashire.
John's place of birth hasn't been written as Rochale on the image, just ditto under the Buckleys. So probably should be Saddleworth as he stated on the 1911 census, posted above.
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2013 22:39 |
I KNEW Schofield rang bells.......wish I'd taken the time to check before I started looking for info!
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MarieCeleste
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11 Nov 2013 22:00 |
Connected:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1333362
and
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1329881
plus
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1325682?page=1
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1296597
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1323986?page=0
Diane, it's much better if you keep all requests about the same (and connected) families on the same thread so that we don't keep going over old ground. It also helps us to help you if we have all the same info in one place to refer to.
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Christina(Lancashire)
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11 Nov 2013 21:54 |
This must be him in 1911. He is a Stone Mason and his (and Mary Margaret's?) daughter Lily was born in Philadelphia in 1894.
He has been married to Henrietta for 3 years, no children from this marriage. The Smith children must be Henrietta's from her previous marriage.
1911 England Census Name: John Bromley Age in 1911: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Middleton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 41 Wagstaff St Middleton Manchester Marital Status: Married Occupation: Stone Mason Registration District: Oldham Registration District Number: 469 Sub-registration District: Middleton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 24558 Household Members: Name Age John Bromley 48 Henrietta Bromley 43.....Middleton Lily Bromley 17....Daughter....Philadelphia, USA John Smith 12....Son....Middleton Georges Smith 9.....Son.....Middleton Mary Wrigley 44.....Boarder.....Widow.....India (British Subject).
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Diane
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11 Nov 2013 19:54 |
The children from Thomas And Mary Margaret ...irene Schofield b: 1886 John Schofield b:1889 both born in Philadelphia USA came back to Rochdale Lancs England. After Mary Margaret died 1898 both children went living with relatives in Rochdale Lancs
Diane
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2013 16:43 |
You haven't answered the question about the Schofield children..............it did have a purpose
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Diane
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11 Nov 2013 13:11 |
Yes my great grandmothers maiden name was Walker. The reason why I wanted to find John Bromley was to see if he did father a child, the one you found Maria Bromley in 1898 (the year Mary Margaret died) but she died aged 2 years. So I guess I will have to get her birth certificate to see if she was the child of John Bromley and Mary Margaret.
Thanks to all for your help.
Diane
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2013 12:42 |
Is this just coincidence?
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1898 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name BROMLEY Maria Castleton Further Rochdale CF/49/58
Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%) Bromley Maria 2 Rochdale 8e 18
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2013 12:39 |
What was Mary's maiden name?
EDIT
Found it myself
Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
Schofield Thomas Rochdale 8e 135 Walker Mary Margaret Rochdale 8e 135
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AnnCardiff
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11 Nov 2013 12:38 |
??????????
Name: Bromley Titles and Terms: Event Type: Birth Event Date: 07 Dec 1863 Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Gender: Male Father's Name: George Bromley Father's Titles and Terms: Mother's Name: Margaret Reference ID: bk 6 p 106 GS Film number: 1289308 Digital Folder Number: 004198956 Image Number: 00425
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2013 12:38 |
You should ask for a lookup of immigration records on Ancestry...............
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2013 12:34 |
What happened to the Schofield offspring?
Unless John and Mary had children together, he is not connected to you in any way
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AnnCardiff
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11 Nov 2013 12:34 |
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Name: John Bromley Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Male Age: 11 Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birthplace: Rochdale, Lancashire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Rochdale Sub-District: Castleton Without The Borough Parish: Castleton County: Lancashire Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Joseph Bromley M 48 Edgeworth, Yorkshire Wife Alice Bromley F 49 Banbridge, Yorkshire Son Samuel Bromley M 18 Rochdale, Lancashire Son John Bromley M 11 Rochdale, Lancashire
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