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Can I phone Essex Record Office in Chelmsford? Thought you would have to go in person. I will give it a try. Thanks.

Thank you so much everyone. I am astonished at the information you have given me. I will be looking at it all to see if it all fits. Still many questions to answer.
So very thrilled thank you again.

Gwen, Have you tried phoning Essex Record Office in Chelmsford?

He just might have been baptised in Leytonstone. Maybe.

On the London Marriages there's a John Bentley born 1877 with a father Thomas getting married in 1900. This could be the John from the workhouse.

There's a school admission for Brid. Bentley in 1890 at St. Aloysius' School - father Thomas living a 30, Stibbington Street, Camden

I wonder if we have the right family here as John named his father as John Albert Bentley on his marriage certificate.

A similar entry from the Admissions and Discharges, this time showing the children all together.

Bentley: Bridget b.1879; James b.1880 and John b.1877 - father and mother in workhouse - discharged 14th June 1889 to parents

Name: John Bently
School: King Street School
Borough: Camden
Admission Date: 23 Mar 1887

(possibly above as well)

Chris :)

This looks like Bridget and James on 1891 ?

1891 census transcription details for: 3, Clarendon Place, St Pancras, London
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 128
Folio: 121
Page: 11
Reg. District: Pancras
Sub District: Somers Town
Parish: St Pancras
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 3, Clarendon Place, St Pancras, London
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BENTLEY, Thomas Head Married M 42 1849 General Labourer
St Pancras, London
BENTLEY, Mary A Wife Married F 39 1852
St Pancras, London
BENTLEY, Jame Son M 11 1880
St Pancras, London
BENTLEY, Bridget Daughter F 13 1878
St Pancras, London


They appear not to be 'connected', although they all did leave the workhouse on the same date according to above post ?

Dea x

Admissions and discharges at Leavesden School, St. Pancras

(Leavesden was an Industrial School attached to the workhouse)

Admitted 14th Septemeber 1888 - John Bentley born 1877 - Mother in House - number affixed to the child's clothes 363

also

Admitted 24th August 1888 - James Bentley born 1880 - Mother in House - and
Admitted 24th August 1888 - Bridget Bentley born 1879 - Mother in House

All three children were discharged on 14th June 1889

Could well be! Something is wrong somewhere. Could be names, dates or anything. That's why I think the best way would be to find his admission to the workhouse etc. Thanks for your help. Gwen

Name: John A Bentley
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Leytonstone, Essex
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St Pancras
Sub-District: Regent'S Park
Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity
Civil Parish: St Pancras
District/Parish/County: London, Middlesex

Could well be! Something is wrong somewhere. Could be names, dates or anything. That's why I think the best way would be to find his admission to the workhouse etc. Thanks for your help. Gwen

Hmmmm....

I wonder if he was born out of Wedlock and just put the name on his marriage cert to cover it up.

Andy

Thanks Andy but I have certificate and have tried to find the father and the same applies cannot find anything. Have looked for John Albert Bentley who died between 1876 and marriage date - no luck. Thanks again. Gwen

His marriage record gives fathers name


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Albert Bentley

Name:John Albert Bentley Plumber
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1877
Age:22
Spouse Name:Mary Ann Myson
Spouse Age:22
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:26 Mar 1899
Parish:Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity
Borough:Camden
Father Name:John Albert Bentley Deceased
Spouse Father Name:George Myson
Register Type:Parish Register



Andy

Can anyone please help me, this is driving me to distraction.

John Albert Bentley b 1877 Leytonstone.

Cannot find him on the 1881 or 1891 census. The first time I can find him is in school admissions as follows: John Bentley, birth 1877,
King Street School, Borough of Camden. Admission date 20 August 1888.
Notes: Previously Camden Street School. Renamed King Street School 1919. Became richard Cobden SChool 1937.
Under Parent/Guardian it says: Board of Guardians.
Found him on the 1901 and 1911 census- he married Mary Ann Myson in 1899 in St Pancras

It seems that he was in the workhouse/industrial school. His friend Albert Stephens was also in care and in the 1891 census was on a Training Ship Torewell in Purfleet and it seems that they were good friends as he was witness to Albert's marriage.
Can anyone tell me where to look next please. Someone has been to LMA on my behalf and found nothing but maybe he was not looking in the right place. For health reasons I cannot get to London. Without finding a parent I cannot go any further back. I would be so grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction. Many thanks

Gwen