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Nala
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5 Nov 2013 10:20 |
I am looking for a Thomas Tolley born 1847 in Stourport, Worcestershire and his wife Mary in the 1871 census please. Could someone please help me find him?
I know that he married in the Kidderminster district in the year 1868.
Any children? Any Address? Any Occupation?
Regards Nala. :-)
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ErikaH
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5 Nov 2013 10:40 |
Have you looked at.................
https://familysearch.org/
Where was he in 1881?
How did you work back to this couple?
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MargaretM
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5 Nov 2013 10:42 |
Which Mary did he marry in 1868?
Marriages Mar 1868 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kelly John Kidderminster 6c 221 Reeves Mary Kidderminster 6c 221 SHIPLEY Mary Kidderminster 6c 221 Tolley Thomas Kidderminster 6c 221
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Nala
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5 Nov 2013 10:45 |
Reggie Family search does not throw up much
and Margee I am trying to find out which Mary he married via the census birthdates and places of the Mary's births.
Nala.
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MargaretM
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5 Nov 2013 10:48 |
Are you descended from a child? If so a birth certificate would give mother's name.
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ErikaH
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5 Nov 2013 10:49 |
Who were Thomas's parents?
No obvious record of him in 1861
EDIT:
Found this, which shows different birth year
1861 census
Person: TOLLEY, Thomas Vessel: 21Goods Of Different Descriptions Port/place: Stourport TOLLEY, Thomas M 12 1849 Boatman Stourport, Worcestershire
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MargaretM
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5 Nov 2013 10:50 |
How did you get his year and place of birth?
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Nala
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5 Nov 2013 10:53 |
Thomas was the son of John Tolley and Ann Haynes of Stourport.
I think i will send for the Marriage cert of his wedding and work from there.
Nala.
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ErikaH
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5 Nov 2013 10:56 |
How do you know that the marriage is for the person you are looking for?
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MargaretM
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5 Nov 2013 10:58 |
Is this him?
1851 England Census about Thomas Tolley Name: Thomas Tolley Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Tolley Mother's Name: Ann Tolley Gender: M (Male) Where born: Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Lindridge County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration District: Tenbury Sub-registration District: Tenbury ED, institution, or vessel: 10b Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 74 Piece: 2040 Folio: 257 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age John Tolley 50 Ann Tolley 52 John Tolley 12 Margret Tolley 10 Thomas Tolley 8 Edward Tolley 5 Charles Tolley 2 Margret Tolley 77
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PricklyHolly
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5 Nov 2013 10:58 |
Is this him in 1861...
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..1861 England Census about Thomas Tolley Name: Thomas Tolley Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Tolley Mother's Name: Ann Tolley Gender: Male Where born: Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Lindridge County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Tenbury Sub-registration District: Bockleton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 14 Piece: 2084 Folio: 82 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age John Tolley 62 Ann Tolley 61 John Tolley 21 Thomas Tolley 17 Edward Tolley 15 Charles Tolley 12
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PricklyHolly
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5 Nov 2013 11:00 |
???
1871 England Census about Thomas Soley Name: Thomas Soley Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Soley Gender: Male Where born: Frith Common, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Abberley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration District: Martley Sub-registration District: Great Witley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Schedule Number: 38 Piece: 3042 Folio: 17 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Soley 27 (Coal Miner) Mary Soley 41 Emma Shipley 11 (Daughter in Law) Lucy Shipley 5 (Daughter in Law) James Toley 3 Lodgers..... Benjamin Edwards 34 Domnic Moran 23 Mary Glazard 30 Greeley Glazard 6 Months
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ErikaH
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5 Nov 2013 11:00 |
So, if those censuses are the right family, the birth year is way out..........as is the birthplace
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PricklyHolly
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5 Nov 2013 11:04 |
If the above is correct....
1881 England Census about Thomas Tolley Name: Thomas Tolley Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Tolley Gender: Male Where born: Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Abberley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address: Glazards Green Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Coal Miner Registration District: Martley Sub-registration District: Witley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2909 Folio: 17 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Tolley 33 Mary Tolley 52 William Halfpenny 23 (Son in Law) Lucy Halfpenny 19 (Daughter in Law) William Tolley 14
Mary must have been married before.
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PricklyHolly
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5 Nov 2013 11:07 |
..1861 England Census about Mary Shipley Name: Mary Shipley Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Edward Shipley Gender: Female Where born: Brierly Hill, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Abberley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Martley Sub-registration District: Great Witley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 57 Piece: 2086 Folio: 19 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Edward Shipley 50 Mary Shipley 34 Mary Shipley 10 Emma Shipley 1 Patrick Grogan 20 Peter Murphy 33
1851 England Census about Mary Shipley Name: Mary Shipley Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Edward Shipley Gender: F (Female) Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Abberley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration District: Martley Sub-registration District: Martley ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 50 Piece: 2041 Folio: 159 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Edward Shipley 50 Mary Shipley 27 Mary Shipley 8 Mo
I think by the time of the 1861 census, Edward had knocked 10 years off his age...
..1841 England Census about Edward Shipley Name: Edward Shipley Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Abberley Hundred: Doddingtree (Lower Division) County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Martley Sub-registration District: Great Witley Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1192 Book: 1 Folio: 17 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Edward Shipley 40 Mary Shipley 40 Edward Shipley 15 (Coal Miner) Samuel Shipley 12
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PricklyHolly
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5 Nov 2013 11:11 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Edward Shipley Name: Edward Shipley Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1865 Registration District: Martley Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 145
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MargaretM
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5 Nov 2013 11:13 |
So if the 1871 that PricklyHolly posted is correct he married Mary Shipley who was previously married because there are in-law children, i.e. stepchildren.
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PricklyHolly
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5 Nov 2013 11:16 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Tolley Name: Mary Tolley Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1882 Age at Death: 53 Registration District: Martley Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 131
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Nala
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5 Nov 2013 11:18 |
I have just had a Private Message from a Family Member who is willing to meet up with me in Kidderminster and give me more details !!!!
Great.
So please do not look / search any further please.
Thank you all for your help. :-D Regards from Nala.
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Nala
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5 Nov 2013 11:21 |
Thank you Margee Reggie Prickly holly for uncovering so much.
Nala. :-)
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