Walter Thatcher was a butler until he married, after which he was licensee of the Cricketers Arms in Farncombe, Surrey. The story in the family is that he was butler at Rolleston Hall, Rolleston on Dove and at Sudeley castle, Winchcomb, Gloucestershire. I have found him in the censuses for 1881, 1891, and 1911, but there is no trace in the 1901 census. He married Sarah Fisher (who was a cook at Rolleston Hall) in Rolleston on Dove, and in 1911 He and Sarah are listed as living in a cottage about a twenty minute walk from Sudeley Castle, and his occupation is listed as butler. Is anyone able to fill in this gap for me in any way?
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for ref:
1911 England Census about Walter Thatcher Name: Walter Thatcher Age in 1911: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Ottershaw, Surrey Civil Parish: Winchcombe County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Wineyard St, Winchcombe Marital Status: Married Occupation: Butler Domestic Registration District: Winchcomb Registration District Number: 332 Sub-registration District: Guiting ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Schedule Number: 68 Piece: 15505 Household Members: Name Age Walter Thatcher 32 Sarah Ann Thatcher 36 Edna Moss 7 - Niece
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1891 England Census about Walter Thatcher Name: Walter Thatcher Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Father's Name: Mack Thatcher Mother's Name: Sarah Thatcher Gender: Male Where born: Ottershaw, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Chertsey Ecclesiastical parish: Ottershaw Town: Ottershaw County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Chertsey Sub-registration District: Chertsey ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 553 Folio: 22 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Mack Thatcher 54 Sarah Thatcher 50 Alice Thatcher 18 Ernest Thatcher 13 Walter Thatcher 11 Arthur Thatcher 9 Brey Thatcher 7
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1901 England Census about Walter Thatcher Name: Walter Thatcher Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Ottershaw, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Micklethwaite Ecclesiastical parish: Collingham St Oswald Town: Micklethwaite County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Wetherby Grange
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Wetherby Sub-registration District: Wetherby ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 53 Piece: 4056 Folio: 74 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gunter 69 - Member of Parliament George Gounte Gunter 23 Walter Thatcher 25 - Footman Walter Beech 19 Robert Wheatley 16 Annie Thomson 31 Christine McLean 31 Jane Ann Stoker 24 Edith Hammonds 18 Alice Scholes 29 Kate Warren 25 Rhoda Henderson 22
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Walter Thatcher Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Ottershaw, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Micklethwaite Ecclesiastical parish: Collingham St Oswald Town: Micklethwaite County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Wetherby Sub-registration District: Wetherby ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 53 Piece: 4056 Folio: 74 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gunter 69 George Gounte Gunter 23 Walter Thatcher 25 Walter Beech 19 Robert Wheatley 16 Annie Thomson 31 Christine McLean 31 Jane Ann Stoker 24 Edith Hammonds 18 Alice Scholes 29 Kate Warren 25 Rhoda Henderson 22 He's a footman at Weatherby Grange
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Marking a post as answered does not in any way thank the members for their help
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He had an advert in Wed 27 Sept 1893, Morning Post (London), which read
Want Places
As PAGE or HALL BOY under butler; 2 years good character; age 15-- Walter Thatcher, Brox- road, Ottershaw, Chertsey, Surrey.
RG number: RG11 Piece: 767 Folio: 28 Page: 22 Reg. District: Chertsey Sub District: Chertsey Parish: Chertsey Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: >>Address: Brox Rd, Chertsey County: Surrey Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born THATCHER, Mark Head Married M 44 1837 Gardner Thorpe, Surrey THATCHER, Sarah Wife Married F 40 1841 Egham, Surrey THATCHER, Edwin Son Single M 10 1871 Employed In Nursery Thorpe, Surrey THATCHER, Alice Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Thorpe, Surrey THATCHER, Rose Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Thorpe, Surrey THATCHER, Ernest Son Single M 4 1877 Ottersham, Surrey THATCHER, Walter Son Single M 2 1879 Ottersham, Surrey
1891 census transcription details for: Brox, Chertsey, Ottershaw Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 553 Folio: 22 Page: 37 Reg. District: Chertsey Sub District: Chertsey Parish: Chertsey Enum. District: 10 Ecclesiastical District: Ottershaw City/Municipal Borough: >>Address: Brox, Chertsey, Ottershaw County: Surrey Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born THATCHER, Mark Head Married M 50 1841 Agricultural Labourer Thorpe, Surrey THATCHER, Sarah Wife Married F 50 1841 Laundress Thorpe, Surrey THATCHER, Alice Daughter Single F 18 1873 General Servant Domestic Thorpe, Surrey THATCHER, Ernest Son M 12 1879 Nursery Labourer Horsham, Surrey THATCHER, Walter Son M 11 1880 Scholar Horsham, Surrey THATCHER, Arthur Son M 9 1882 Scholar Horsham, Surrey THATCHER, Rosy Son M 7 1884 Scholar Horsham, Surrey
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For the record, Ian sent me a PM of thanks at 11.24am, before Glitterbaby's post above.
As he's marked Flip's post as answered, I expect he's also PM'd Flip.
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Thank you for clearing that up
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Yes I got a PM as well, but haven't replied yet - will explain how to reply on the thread, just in case he needs any more info.
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Thank you to everyone for setting me right, and also to alviegel for telling me of a job application he made in 1893. The gaps are filling up. :-D
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No problems Ian, glad you've made it back!
Interestingly, they state they have been married 3 years in 1911, but I can't see a marriage for them. Have you found one?
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Yes. It took me a while, but then I searched n Sarah Fisher and up it popped. They married in Burton on Trent in the 4th quarter of 1907, but somehow his first name was entered as Wallis.
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