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I am looking for any information on a Herbert Jones born 1888 in America >His parents were William Henry Jones and Emma nee Edwards .In 1939 at his fathers funeral in Gloucestershire flowers were sent from Herbert and Blanche in Pittsburgh. William Henry died on board a ship coming back from America and another son died in 1916 fighting for the Canadians so I am looking for information on Herbert please

1930 US Census

Birthplace:Missouri
Race:White
Home in 1930:Pittsburg, Crawford, Kansas




Herbert Jones 41 Machinist
Blanche Jones 39
Harold Jones 15


Andy

1920

Herbert H Jones 31 Stationery Engineer, Planing Mill
Blanche Jones 28
Harold A Jones 5


Andy

Herbert H Jones, "United States Census, 1940"
Name: Herbert H Jones
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Ward 3, Pittsburg, Pittsburg City, Crawford, Kansas, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 51
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Missouri
Birth Year (Estimated): 1889
Last Place of Residence: Same House
District: 19-20
Family Number: 152
Sheet Number and Letter: 7A
Line Number: 15
Affiliate Publication Number: T627
Affiliate Film Number: 1227
Digital Folder Number: 005449132
Image Number: 00671
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Herbert H Jones M 51 Missouri
Wife Blanche A Jones F 49 England

Thank you Andrew I have a family photograph taken at the Golden Wedding of William H Jones and Emma with all the children and grandchildren and I am trying to identify everyone One of their sons died in France in1916 but there is still one missing from the photo so I assume it must be Herbert as he was in Pittsburgh in both 1930 & 1940 census .So thank you for that information

Not sure how we can confirm its the correct one but the mothers name is correct



California, Death Index, 1940-1997
about Herbert H Jones




Name:
Herbert H Jones

Social Security #:
510288177

Gender:
Male

Birth Date:
9 Jan 1888

Birth Place:
Missouri

Death Date:
21 Nov 1963

Death Place:
Orange

Mother's Maiden Name:
Edwards

Thank you Gins so if this is the correct family I Have relatives in America that I did not know about

I wouldn't put them in your tree as yet

Do you have the exact date of death for his father?

Thank you Gins William Henry Jones senior died 23/04/1935 on RMS Berengaria I would like to work out a timeline for William and his wife as they seem to have travelled back and forth from America, children Dora a1884 and Herbert were born in America then Maud and Raymond were born in the Forest of Dean Gloucestershire England; Gertrude 1893 was born in America' then 3 subsequent children were born in Forest of Dean ,the last one being in 1900 and in 1935 they were travelling back from America

That looks like the correct death,Gins.
U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925 about Herbert Hubert Jones
Name: Herbert Hubert Jones
Birth Date: 9 Jan 1887
Birth Place: Minden, Missouri
Age: 33
Passport Issue Date: 8 Jul 1920
Passport Includes a Photo: Yes
Residence: Pittsburg, Kansas
Father Name: Wm Henry Jones
Father's Birth Location: Forest Dean, England
Father's Residence: Gloucestershire, England


Maureen

Eeek...you said 1939 in your earlier post?

Mo....there's a photo?


That might help

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Sorry Gins typo date of death is 1935 sorry for any confusion just trying to name all of my relatives in the photograph I have the only definite ones I know is my father and his siblings ,his mother and her parents but if I can eliminate Herbert from the photo I can look at the ages of the others and see if I can work from that Thank you so much for your help

With any luck I've PMed the passport images.

Mo

Who died in WW1? - I can can only find Raymond enlisting:

Name: JONES, RAYMOND SYDNEY
Regimental number(s): 23472
Reference: RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 4952 - 46
Date of Birth: 05/06/1893
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc007/424842a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc007/424842b.gif
[attested 5/9/1914 @ Val Cartier PQ]


For the time line:

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
JONES Rosa Amelia Mary JONES JONES EDWARDS 1881 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 40 49
US Gert 1884ish, Dora 1886ish Herbert 1889ish
JONES Maud JONES JONES EDWARDS 1890 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 47 397
JONES Raymond Sydney JONES JONES EDWARDS 1892 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 49 170
JONES William Henry JONES JONES EDWARDS 1894 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 51 466
JONES Emma Hilda JONES JONES EDWARDS 1894 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 2 216
JONES Mary Muriel JONES JONES EDWARDS 1896 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 4 168
JONES Rilley JONES JONES EDWARDS 1897 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham (from 1893) 2 264
JONES Harold JONES JONES EDWARDS 1898 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham (from 1893) 2 469
JONES Wilfred Baden JONES JONES EDWARDS 1900 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham (from 1893) 3 243
JONES Dorothy Lydia Elizabeth JONES JONES EDWARDS 1901 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham (from 1893) 3 458

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
JONES William Henry EDWARDS Emma Jane Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office Closed 1881 14 19


Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
Jones Emma Hilda Westbury S. 6a 2_4

Births Sep 1896 (>99%)
Jones Mary Muriel Westbury S. 6a 237

Maybe
Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%)
Jones Mary 0 Westbury S. 6a 158

For Harold:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X73T-844
Affiliate Film Number: 699
GS Film number: 2340434
Digital Folder Number: 004584455
Image Number: 00276

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MF6Q-K13
GS Film number: 1820529
Digital Folder Number: 004300846
Image Number: 00531


Magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
https://archive.org/stream/15thcensus699usce#page/n272/mode/1up
https://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu529unit#page/n528/mode/1up

Thank you for all that information m for all that information mgnv .I thought I had all the children but had missed the last one. William Henry Jones born 1895 in the Forest of Dean died in France 1916 and enlisted with the Canadian forces name found on the grave of William and Emma Jones

(worth a look on below)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

Chris :)

Herbert H. Jones
Birth: 1888
Death: 1963
Inscription:
Husband, Dad
Burial:
Fairhaven Memorial Park
Santa Ana
Orange County
California, USA
Plot: Lawn AK

Blanche A. Jones
Birth: 1890
Death: 1964
Inscription:
Wife, Mom
Burial:
Fairhaven Memorial Park
Santa Ana
Orange County
California, USA
Plot: Lawn AK

Although Wm's birth was rego'ed 1895q1:

Births Mar 1895 (>99%)
Jones William Henry Monmouth 11a 26

one did have 6w to rego a birth - my guess is that he was born lateish in Dec - Note GlosBMD say he's b 1894:

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
JONES William Henry JONES JONES EDWARDS 1894 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 51 466

Presumably, GlosBMD indexes by d.o.b., not d.o.regigistration (LancsBMD have the same policy).
Six of the ten names on GRO 1895q1 vol 11a p 26 have 1894 dates at GlosBMD - one can tell it's the matching birth as the 10 names have entry #s in range 465-474 @ GlosBMD.

His attestation papers give his d.o.b. as 21/12/1891:
Name: JONES, WILLIAM HENRY
Regimental number(s): 15037
23403
Reference: RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 4964 - 18
Date of Birth: 21/12/1891
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http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc008/428531b.gif

Clearly he's lying, but I'll bet he didn't lie abt his b'day, and he was really b 21/12/1894.

It also looks like he spent some time in Grey Co, Ont, at the S end of Georgian Bay off L. Huron.

Thank you all for your replies but am curious as to why William had to lie about his age in 1915 he would have been 21 what was the age he needed to be

He was 19 (i.e., a minor) when he enlisted - check when he attested - and as such, he would need parental permission,