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new south wales birth records 1859

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Delwyn

Delwyn Report 4 Nov 2013 02:39

I am looking for birth records for Algernon Edward Blanchard born Sydney in 1859, I cannot find anything through bdm, in NSW or Queensland, can anyone give me any ideas where else to look

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BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 4 Nov 2013 07:16

Lots of Blanchards born in Sydney but can't see an Algernon.
How did you get back to him? Who were his parents/siblings/wife?

Gee

Gee Report 4 Nov 2013 07:18

Birth: 2 Mar 1859 - Australia
Marriage: 14 Mar 1882 - Queensland, Australia
Death: 1 Sep 1942 - Chinchilla, Queensland, Australia
Parents: Edward Blanchard, Maria Ann Butt
Spouse: Emma Donald

Above from a tree at Ancestry



Australia Death Index, 1787-1985


Name:Algernon Edward Blanchard

Death Date:1 Sep 1942

Death Place:Queensland

Father's Name:Edward

Mother's Name:Maria Butt

Registration Year:1942

Registration Place:Queensland

Registration number:003084

Page Number:192



Cant see his birth though

Gee

Gee Report 4 Nov 2013 07:21


1871 England Census

Name:
Ugernon Blanchard
[Algernon Blanchard]

Age:12

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1859

Relation:Son

Mother's Name:Maria A Blanchard

Gender:Male

Where born:
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
[Sydne N S W Austrdlea]

Civil Parish:Lewisham

Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch

Town:Forest Hill

County/Island:Kent

Country:England

Registration District:Lewisham

Sub-registration District:Sydenham

ED, institution, or vessel:15b

Household Schedule Number:305

Piece:773

Folio:36

Page Number:12

Household Members:

Maria A Blanchard 30
Alfred Wodkinton 20
Ugernon Blanchard 12
Edith M Bellang 2
Lily T Brasier 12





Delwyn

Delwyn Report 4 Nov 2013 09:37

I have all that information.My grandfather Paul Blanchard,was Algernons son. My mum was 16 and was with him when he died,but he didnt talk much about his father, who was Edward. Algernon said his father was a sea captain, and Algernon went with him sometimes on his boat. Apparently Edward died when Algernon was a young boy, and left his mother Maria Butt quite a sum of money. They went back to England, and Algernon spent a year at a Uni in Paris. Algernon told his children they were French and Spanish, and Blanchard dna backs that up. I cannot find where Edward came from, and thought if I could get Edwards death cert or Algernons birth cert that would give me more info. There were 2 Edward Blanchards who were seamen who died in the 1860's but do not believe they were him.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Nov 2013 03:50

Given that Maria and her son were in England by 1871, do you think this might be Edward's death, at sea:

501551/1868 BLANCHARD EDWARD UNKNOWN / DIED AT SEA / MARINE

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Nov 2013 03:57

Not sure why you have marked your request as answered? (Ticking that indicates the whole thread has been sorted, not just that particular post responded to).
?
PS A 'thank you' doesn't hurt either, even if someone posts info you already have - they are not to know that you know unless you have already stated it! :-)

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Nov 2013 04:01

Possibly Edward's arrival in NSW, as crew?

BLANCHARD Edward
21
Euroclydon
C
05 Feb 1855
London
401
Seaman, Rotterdam


Possibly Maria's arrival in NSW - no marriage found there:
BUTT
Maria
[age] 20
Boanerges
1857
Sydney and/or Newcastle
Reel 2138, [4/4794]; Reel 2475, [4/4967]

No birth for Algernon as BUTT or BLANCHARD :-(

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Nov 2013 04:11

You probably have this too but I am bored - from NLA Trove newspaper site:

The Brisbane Courier, Tuesday 21 March 1882
MARRIAGES.
BLANCHARD—DONALD. - On the 14th March, at the residence of the bride's mother, by the Rev. H. Budge, Algernon Edward Blanchard, to Emma, third daughter of the late George Donald, of Spring Meadows, Irvingdale.

They had 8 children, including fraternal twins.

The Courier-Mail, Monday 7 September 1942
MR. ALGERNON BLANCHARD, 83, who died at Chinchilla, was a native of London. He had lived at Chinchilla for 50 years, and was an accountant and bookkeeper. He has left a widow and a grown-up family.

Emma's death:
1943 / C3395 Emma Blanchard / George Donald / Hanna Hughes

Delwyn

Delwyn Report 6 Nov 2013 07:25

Thanks for that, I have all that information, and I didnt mean to be rude, but just letting readers know what info I have, I havent done this before.
Have traced Maria from birth to death, and baby girl born in Shropshire in 1869, Edward Blanchard was named on birth cert, but by the time she was 2yo, on census, she was called edith maud bellamy, and on her marriage cert, she named her father asThomas Bellamy, my thinking is Maria may have had an affair with Bellamy on the ship back to England, but there are no records for ships Australia to England at that time.
I have copy of that Edward Blanchard death cert, death at sea and he was only 22yo.
I have a feeling the Edward from the Euroclydon may be my ancestor.
There was an Edward Blanchard died in Bowen in 1865, but he was married a year before he died, and no children named. I was told by one of my mothers cousins, who was quite close to Algernon, that Edward left quite a bit of money to Maria when he died, and have that feeling, my ancestor wasnt the one who died in Bowen.

Delwyn

Delwyn Report 6 Nov 2013 07:25

Thanks for that, I have all that information, and I didnt mean to be rude, but just letting readers know what info I have, I havent done this before.
Have traced Maria from birth to death, and baby girl born in Shropshire in 1869, Edward Blanchard was named on birth cert, but by the time she was 2yo, on census, she was called edith maud bellamy, and on her marriage cert, she named her father asThomas Bellamy, my thinking is Maria may have had an affair with Bellamy on the ship back to England, but there are no records for ships Australia to England at that time.
I have copy of that Edward Blanchard death cert, death at sea and he was only 22yo.
I have a feeling the Edward from the Euroclydon may be my ancestor.
There was an Edward Blanchard died in Bowen in 1865, but he was married a year before he died, and no children named. I was told by one of my mothers cousins, who was quite close to Algernon, that Edward left quite a bit of money to Maria when he died, and have that feeling, my ancestor wasnt the one who died in Bowen.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Nov 2013 08:59

Perhaps Edward & Maria were not married? And the child's birth not registered?

Have you been able to locate a will for Edward?

Delwyn

Delwyn Report 7 Nov 2013 03:28

I had wondered about that, I dont know where to look for a will in Australia, but found a copy of Marias will in England. I have been stuck now for a few years, and asked my brother who was in London to look at the National Archives in Kew, but he couldnt or didnt know where to look for information on the Edward Blanchard who came over on the Euroclydon. Those records arent accessible yet online.
Maria took the surname of Blanchard when she returned to England, but that may have been to save face with her family.Its interesting but hard when one gets stuck, and kept thinking, when I retire in 3 years I will have more time for research, but I will probably be in the same position then as I am now. Thanks for your ideas, because you may have the key idea that opens the door.