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my great grand-dad james Gordon

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Valerie

Valerie Report 1 Nov 2013 03:34

hello, I have traced him in 1851-71 in clackmannanshire , & iam searching for anyone ,who might be looking for a brother to their line, in this case my great g/dad james gordon
age by census abt 1825 , his age varied bty 1851 25yrs, 1861 36yrs, 1871 gone up 20yrs to 55yrs, & died 1871 aged 50 years, he wed robina allan by banns proclamation 25th jul 1846, & wed 12 aug 1846, i have a photo-copy of the banns, but no parents given., I have looked at a william Gordon & janet sangster ,in inverurie, but there isnt a james gordon living with them in 1841, i have been trying to get somewhere with my direct line for over 20 yrs now, ,i have all their children & marriages, & my direct line with always james gordon to grandfather, & then my dad & brother ,also named james, would be lovely to find a sister or brother of my james gordon, & to solve this long time mystery, my tree is on ancestry, plus roots web, one world connect for many years,
thank you valerie nee Gordon :-)

Susan

Susan Report 1 Nov 2013 05:09

For Ref . Is this him

1851 Scotland Census
about James Gerdon Name: James Gerdon
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Robena Allan
Gender: Male
Where born: Inverness, aberdeensh
Parish Number: 468
Civil Parish: Tillicoultry
Town: Coalsnaughton
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: O Of Coalsnaughton
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 1
Page: 30 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 121
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_97
Household Members: Name Age
James Gerdon 28
Robena Allan 27
Robena Gerdon 4
James Gerdon 1



Valerie

Valerie Report 1 Nov 2013 07:02

yes susan i do have him in 1851,1861, 1871, but not 1841, so many James Gordon
thank you
:-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 1 Nov 2013 07:57

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1333473

Susan

Susan Report 1 Nov 2013 07:57

Possible.?

1841 Scotland Census
about James Gordon Name: James Gordon
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Inverness, Scotland

Civil Parish: Abernethy and Kincardine
County: Inverness
Address: Croftmore
Occupation: M S
Parish Number: 90A
Household Members: Name Age
Donald Smith 65
Christy Smith 55
Margret Smith 35
Mary Smith 25
Christy Smith 10
Jane Mcpherson 10
James Gordon 15



1841 Scotland Census
about James Gordon Name: James Gordon
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Inverness, Scotland

Civil Parish: Cromdale
County: Inverness
Address: Knockanakist
Parish Number: 128B
Household Members: Name Age
Donald Gordon 50
Janet Gordon 50
Margret Gordon 25
Peter Gordon 15
James Gordon 15
William Gordon 13
Jessie Gordon 9
John Ross 85
Charles Ross 25
Hugh Ross 25



Malcolm

Malcolm Report 1 Nov 2013 11:20

If he died in 1871 you should find his Death Cert on Scotlands People which will confirm his parents and his wife as well as a witness who maybe a useful link.


Despite the fact that ages varied slightly in the census, I don't see how someone can age 20 years in a decade, then become 5 years younger before death.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Nov 2013 17:47

Deaths:

1877 GORDON ROBINA ALLAN F 55 TILLICOULTRY /CLACKMANNAN 468/00 0069


1871 GORDON JAMES M 50 TILLICOULTRY /CLACKMANNAN 468/00 0075

James's death record does not name his parents. Space is left blank.
"Married to Robina Allan".
Informant was his son James Gordon.

Even his son didn't know who James's parents were, so not much hope for us!

EDIT: And you say his parents weren't named on his marriage record either, so it looks as if even James himself didn't know who his parents were.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Nov 2013 18:07

Just for our info:


1871 Scotland Census about Robina Gordon
Name: Robina Gordon
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Gordon
Gender: Female
Where born: Clackmannan, Clackmannanshire
Registration number: 468
Registration District: Tillicoultry
Civil Parish: Tillicoultry
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: 20 Town Foot
Occupation: Cool Miners Wife
ED: 6
Household Schedule Number: 119
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_80
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gordon 55 (ScotlandsPeople also gives age as 55 in 1871)
Robina Gordon 49
James Gordon 21
William Gordon 78
Janet Gordon 15
Mary Gordon 70


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Nov 2013 18:08

Valerie, you say that James's age is given as 36 in 1861.

The transcription on Ancestry has him as 56:


1861 Scotland Census about James Gardon
Name: James Gardon
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Robina Gardon
Gender: Male
Where born: Imemry, Aberdeen (presumably mistranscription of Inverurie)
Registration number: 468
Registration District: Tillicoultry
Civil Parish: Tillicoultry
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: Blain Pl
Occupation: Coalminer
ED: 6
Household Schedule Number: 107
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1861_62
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gardon 56
Robina Gardon 37
Robina Gardon 13
James Gardon 11
William Gardon 8
Janet Gardon 5

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Nov 2013 18:29

As we really have no idea when he was born, here's the birth of the only James Gordon born in Inverurie 1800-28, per ScotlandsPeople:

17/10/1812 GORDON JAMES HUGH GORDON/ELIZABETH FORBES M INVERURIE /ABERDEEN 204/00 0030 0158

Valerie

Valerie Report 2 Nov 2013 01:58

hello argyllgran , i have the original 1861 census & james gordon is 36yrsold, i think ancestry have read it wrong & is Gordon not Garden ,& born inverury Abdeenshire, I keep looking at the william Gordon ms for gordon family, & i do have a copy of william & janet nee sangster, having a son james born at the porter lodge manor,william was a coachman, & this james Gordon was born 12th feb & bap 28th 1829, so i keep looking at this only james born ,so if i can find him in 1841 , then i might know ,if he is mine, otherwise none the wiser ,after all these years, would be lovely if any of willam Gordon & janet sangsters descendants , out there, might know ,what happened to james ,
thanks you everyone for your help