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Virtue Herring b 1848 and William Terry b 1833 ?

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Brenda

Brenda Report 28 Oct 2013 18:40

Help please, found the marriage , 1866 Newington, London
Looking for the parish record, as to confirming the parents of William
which i have as Matilda fomally Webb, Terry
and William John Terry ? and to confirm the age of William Robert as i have seen another Robert William b 1846 ?
Have the children
as Matilda b 1825, Borough Surrey England
William Daniel b1831
iElizabeth b1830
William Robert , 1833 George the martyr
also two other children
thanks kindly for any help

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Oct 2013 18:47

Hi Brenda.
Got your message by the way - have replied.

Your query is a little confusing. Do you mean you are looking for a baptism?

Jan

Brenda

Brenda Report 28 Oct 2013 18:52

Hi Jan m looking for the mariage in the parish records , so i can check the parents of William and his correct age, Im not to sure if this is the Right William and the right family who married virtue I I have been through to 24 pages of the parish records but to no avail , I managed to get the parents Matilda and William john Terry Bren

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Oct 2013 19:08

Just so you know, you will not find his mother's name on any marriage record.
I can't see the marriage on Familysearch.
So - are you saying you have a William Robert Terry born 1833 and you are looking for a marriage for him?
EDIT sorry, crossed posts!
Might help if you tell us when you have him for sure, & how you came by him in the first place .
Jan

Brenda

Brenda Report 28 Oct 2013 19:18

The marriage cirtificate does show the parents names Jan I have one in front of me ! date of the marriage is 99% im sure off,. If you find them on the parish records you can snip it and then save it
Mar 1866 Newington I found there marriage on BMD Bren

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2013 19:22

Not found it on London Marriages on Ancestry

Have you got the couple on any census?

Brenda

Brenda Report 28 Oct 2013 19:27

Have to come back to you later Jan my husband is after some dinner
Bren thanks again for any help you are able to offer Bren

Brenda

Brenda Report 28 Oct 2013 19:31

Marriage Mar 1866 (99%)
Herring Virtue Newington 1d 276
Terry William Newington !d 276

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 28 Oct 2013 19:32

Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
Adams George Newington 1d 276
Edwards Elizabeth Newington 1d 276
Herring Virtue Newington 1d 276 <<<
TERRY William Newington 1d 276 <<<

This one has no middle name.

I'm also wondering where the mother's name appears on the certificate.

Mike *

Mike * Report 28 Oct 2013 19:39

Both parents names appear on Scottish marriage certs I think but never seen an English one with same info

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 28 Oct 2013 19:43

This is the only birth:

Births Mar 1848 (>99%)
Herring Virtue Swaffham 13 299

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2013 20:00

She is on 1861 census as a servant

Ancestry cross ref her to Virtue Waller in 1871

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Oct 2013 20:03

Guide to what is on England & Wales marriage certificates:

http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/marriages.htm

Only times I've ever seen a mother's name is when she's been a witness or when the person getting married was illegitimate and mother had been written in the father's details.

Brenda

Brenda Report 28 Oct 2013 20:45



Sorry Sorry made a mistake it is the fathers name found on the marriage certificate. IM a silly old F>>>T
you wont find them on the 1871 census, only Vrtue who was living with william waller, because Wiliam Terry died with in weeks of them being married.
They had one child William Terry b first Q 1866 Newington St Georges Southwark Surrey
Virtue then left London because she became ill and died that year 1871 at the age of 23 back in Norfolk to where her parents was,, and her son died Two years later at the age of 7yrs back in Norfolk. On the 1871 census under spelt Tooey sad story really
Although Virtue was as married when living with William Waller in the 1871 Census,
we could never find a marriage for them , also in the burial record she was down as Virtue Waller i found this in the parish records
I am trying to find inf on William Terry and his parents.
the son is on the 1871 census age 5 down as Robert W Terry
Spelt Tooey






MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Oct 2013 22:00

Haven't found their marriage, but did come across a possible newspaper article:

Headline: SWAFFHAM QUARTER SESSIONS.
Publication:Norfolk Chronicle
Publication date:Saturday 18 January 1862

Article text:
"Edward Tennant (40), on bail, was charged with committing a criminal assault upon Virtue Herring, at Saham Toney, on the 26th of December last, on three different counts. After a patient trial, the jury returned verdict of guilty on the second count of the indictment, charging him with indecent assault, and he was sentenced in the full penalty of two years imprisonment, and to be kept to hard labour"

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Oct 2013 22:17

If you are sure your William Terry married Virtue, it looks like you need to buy the marriage cert for his father's name doesn't it?
Jan

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Oct 2013 23:46

1851

Name: Virtue Herring
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Charlotte Herring
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bodney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Saham Toney
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Swaffham
Sub-registration District: Swaffham
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 132
Piece: 1831
Folio: 474
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Herring 29
Sarah Herring 8
Susan Herring 6
Virtue Herring 3
Maria Herring 11 Mo


Marriages Sep 1842
BURGESS Charlotte Swaffham 13 437
DIXON James Swaffham 13 437
HERRING William Swaffham 13 437
ROPER Elizabeth Swaffham 13 437

Brenda

Brenda Report 29 Oct 2013 17:39

Thank you all you wonderful people for all the Great Help you have given
Brenda