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28 Oct 2013 03:46 |
Looking for any descendants of the brothers or sisters? of Joseph Morgan Sly born 1873 died 1907 in England. Married to Julia Louisa Bromley. I am Joseph Morgan Sly's grandaughter Anne
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28 Oct 2013 07:13 |
Welcome to the boards, Anne.
Have you looked to see if anyone on here has Joseph or his parents in their trees? (Use Search/Search All Member Trees, top right).
You can then try to contact them to find out more.
Added: For ref: Joseph Morgan Sly Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1907 Age at Death: 34 Registration District: St Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 71
Have you got a birth for him?
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Gee
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28 Oct 2013 07:14 |
Hi Anne
If you go to the top of the page to the SEARCH button, you can search ALL TREES to see if anyone else has this family on the site
If so, you can contact them to exchange information
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28 Oct 2013 07:18 |
The marriage is in the name Ely?
Marriages Sep 1899 Bromley Julia Louisa Westminster 1a 1233 Ely Joseph Morgan Westminster 1a 1233
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Chris Ho :)
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28 Oct 2013 07:32 |
Groom's First names:Joseph Morgan (BootMaker) Groom's surname:Sly Groom's parish: Groom's Age:25 Marriage year:1899 Marriage month:Aug Marriage day:06 Parish:St John The Baptist, Great Marlborough Street County:Middlesex Bride's First names:Julia Louisa Bride's surname:Bromley Bride's parish: Bride's Age:21 Record source:Westminster Marriages- Transcripts Data provider:Westminster Archives (Grooms Father, Adin Sly, Deceased)
Chris :)
Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%) --------------------------------------------- Sly Adin 68 Marylebone 1a 481
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FANCOURT Charles St John Pancras 1b 170 Keating Mary Ann Pancras 1b 170 Mansel Jane Mary A Pancras 1b 170 Sly Adin Pancras 1b 170
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28 Oct 2013 07:48 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name:Mary Ann Keating <<Widow
Spouse Name:Adin Sly <<Widower Occ Carpenter/joiner
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:17 Jun 1874
Parish:St Pancras Parish Chapel
Borough:Camden
Father Name:Charles King<< Builder (deceased)
Spouse Father Name:Robert Sly <<Carpenter/joiner (deceased)
Register Type: Parish Register
Wit: David & Lucy Wilkie
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Chris Ho :)
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28 Oct 2013 07:53 |
1881 SLY, Adin Head Married M 65 1816 Carpenter & Joiner Watchfield, Berkshire SLY, Mary A Wife Married F 41 1840 St Pancras, Middlesex KING, William Brother Married M 49 1832 Painter House St Pancras, Middlesex MORGAN, Josh Sly Nephew Single M 9 1872 Scholar St Marylebone, Middlesex COWLES, Marian Boarder Married F 33 1848 Dressmaker Haleswork, Suffolk COWLES, Add B Single F 12 1869 Scholar Marylebone, Middlesex DAVIES, Caroline Lodger Married F 60 1821 Needlewoman Burnham, Buckinghamshire Piece: 149 Folio: 93 Page: 50 Registration District: Marylebone Civil Parish: St Marylebone Municipal Borough: Address: 30, Gt Quebec St, St Marylebone County: London, Middlesex
1891 SLY, Adin Head Married M 60 1831 Carpenter Middlesex SLY, Mary A Wife Married F 50 1841 Middlesex SLY, Jane Daughter Single F 40 1851 Dressmaker Middlesex SLY, Joseph Son Single M 20 1871 Warehouseman Middlesex GILES, John Visitor Married M 40 1851 Carpenter Middlesex GILES, Ellen Visitor Wife F 39 1852 Middlesex GILES, Ellen Visitor Daughter F 16 1875 Middlesex Piece: 96 Folio: 160 Page: 22 Registration District: Marylebone Civil Parish: St Marylebone Municipal Borough: Address: 30, Great Quebec Street, St Marylebone County: London
Chris :)
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28 Oct 2013 09:09 |
All a bit odd don't you think?
Even though Joseph's marriage record states his Father is Adin Sly.....
The 1881 census has him as........Joseph Sly Morgan....Nephew.
Which might indicate that he was in fact a "Stepson" (Or perhaps born out of wedlock?)
There is no birth registered (as far as i can see) for either a Joseph Morgan Sly or a Joseph Sly Morgan.
His death reg states he was born abt 1873............both the 1881 census and 1891 census states he was born in 1871..........and yet his Father didn't remarry until 1874.
Edit: I wonder...
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Births Mar 1870 (>99%) Keating Joseph Pancras 1b 129
Births Dec 1873 (>99%) Keating Joseph Woolwich 1d 978
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28 Oct 2013 09:51 |
Either way, Joseph does not appear to have any full siblings.......just half siblings.
1871 England Census about Adin Sleigh Name: Adin Sleigh [Adin Sly] Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Shrivenham, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Registration District: Marylebone Sub-registration District: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household Schedule Number: 123 Piece: 168 Folio: 47 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Adin Sleigh 50 (Widower) Jane Sleigh 27 Elizabeth Sleigh 24 Henry Sleigh 15 William Penfold 26 (Visitor)
..1861 England Census about Adin Sly Name: Adin Sly Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Sly Gender: Male Where born: Watchfield, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Shrivenham and Watchfield County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Faringdon Sub-registration District: Shrivenham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 49 Piece: 727 Folio: 26A Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Adin Sly 42 Mary Ann Sly 41 Jane Sly 19 Sarah Sly 10 Henry Sly 6 1851 England Census about Addin Sly Name: Addin Sly Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Sly Gender: M (Male) Where born: Watchfield, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Watchfield County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View Image Registration District: Faringdon Sub-registration District: Shrivenham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 79 Piece: 1687 Folio: 80 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Addin Sly 32 Mary A Sly 31 Jane Sly 8 Elizabeth Sly 6 Sarah Sly 1 Mary Hammonds 12
1841 England Census about Ading Sly Name: Ading Sly Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Shrivenham Hundred: Shrivenham County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Faringdon Sub-registration District: Shrivenham Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 27 Book: 14 Folio: 6 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Robert Sly 65 Jane Sly 60 Ading Sly 20 Mary Sly 20
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28 Oct 2013 09:55 |
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Adin Sly Name: Adin Sly Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Date of Trial: 7 Apr 1840 Trial Year: 1840 Location of Trial: Berkshire, England Offence: Recieving Stolen Goods....Not Guilty Sentence: Acquittal
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28 Oct 2013 10:18 |
1901 England Census about Joseph Sly Name: Joseph Sly Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Julia Sly Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, London, England Civil Parish: Southwark St Saviour Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Southwark Sub-registration District: St Saviour, Southwark ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 217 Piece: 361 Folio: 80 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Sly 27 Julia Sly 22 Henry Sly 1 Horace Bromley 19 (Nephew) Household transcription 1911 census Person: SLY, Julia Louise Address: 10 Walcorde Avenue Walworth S E SLY, Julia Louise Wife Widow F 32 1879 Waitress Camden Town VIEW SLY, Henry Joseph Son M 11 1900 School Islington VIEW SLY, Horace Philip Edward Son M 8 1903 Bow VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 1808 Reference: RG14PN1808 RG78PN64 RD23 SD4 ED16 SN391 Registration District: Southwark Sub District: Newington North Enumeration District: 16 Parish: St Mary Newington Address: 10 Walcorde Avenue Walworth S E County: London (4 children born, 3 living 1 had died)
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28 Oct 2013 11:17 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: SLY, Jane Address: 63 Kilburn Park Road Paddington N W SLY, Jane Single F 69 1842 Private Means Berks Watchfield VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28 Reference: RG14PN28 RG78PN1 RD1 SD1 ED28 SN18 Registration District: Paddington Sub District: Paddington North Enumeration District: 28 Parish: Paddington Address: 63 Kilburn Park Road Paddington N W County: London
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Elizabeth Sly Name: Elizabeth Sly Spouse Name: Wm James Pinfold Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Jul 1871 Parish: St Marylebone Borough: Westminster Father Name: Adin Sly Spouse Father Name: Charles Pinfold Register Type: Parish Register
..1881 England Census about Elizabeth Penfold Name: Elizabeth Penfold [Elizabeth Pinfold] Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: William James Penfold Gender: Female Where born: Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Marylebone County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 61 Grove Road Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Marylebone Sub-registration District: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 158 Folio: 59 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age William James Penfold 36 Elizabeth Penfold 34 Ward Lillian Penfold 6 Edith Elizabeth Penfold 3 Annie Ethel Penfold 1
..1891 England Census about Elizabeth Pinfold Name: Elizabeth Pinfold Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Pinfold Gender: Female Where born: Watchfield, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Willesden Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Hendon Sub-registration District: Willesden ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1046 Folio: 41 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age William Pinfold 47 Elizabeth Pinfold 45 Maud Pinfold 16 Edith Pinfold 13 Annie Pinfold 10 Rose Pinfold 9 Nellie Pinfold 8 1901 England Census about William Penfold Name: William Penfold Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Penfold Gender: Male Where born: Southampton Civil Parish: Willesden Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Hendon Sub-registration District: Willesden ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 190 Piece: 1221 Folio: 142 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age William Penfold 57 Elizabeth Penfold 56 Edith Penfold 23 Annie Penfold 21 Rose Penfold 19 Nellie Penfold 18 England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Elizabeth Pinfold Name: Elizabeth Pinfold Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1905 Age at Death: 61 Registration District: Hendon Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 121
1911 England Census about William James Pinfold Name: William James Pinfold Age in 1911: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Southampton, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Willesden County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 170 Kilburn Park Road, Willesden, Kilburn N W Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Carpenter Registration District: Willesden Registration District Number: 129 Sub-registration District: Willesden ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household Schedule Number: 281 Piece: 6981 Household Members: Name Age William James Pinfold 67
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28 Oct 2013 11:47 |
..England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Sarah Ann Sly Name: Sarah Ann Sly Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1849 Registration District: Faringdon Inferred County: Berkshire Volume: 6 Page: 185
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Sarah Anne Sly Name: Sarah Anne Sly Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1852 Age: 28 Father's Name: Adin Sly Spouse's Name: Henry Kingham Spouse's Age: 28 Spouse's Father's Name: William George Kingham Marriage Date: 14 Aug 1880 Marriage Place: Langley-Bury, Hertfordshire, England
Appears as Annie...
(An Annie Sly was a witness at Elizabeth's marriage so it was probably Sarah.)
..1881 England Census about Annie Kingham Name: Annie Kingham Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Henry Kingham Gender: Female Where born: Watchfield, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Abbots Langley County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: Home Park Cottages Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Watford Sub-registration District: Abbots Langley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1441 Folio: 52 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Henry Kingham 28 Annie Kingham 28
..1891 England Census about Annie Kingham Name: Annie Kingham Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Kingham Gender: Female Where born: Reading, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Watford Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Watford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Watford Sub-registration District: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1118 Folio: 96 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Henry Kingham 39 Annie Kingham 39 1901 England Census about Sarah Annie Kingham Name: Sarah Annie Kingham Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Kingham Gender: Female Where born: Reading, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Watford Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Watford Sub-registration District: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 169 Piece: 1317 Folio: 104 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Henry Kingham 48 Sarah Annie Kingham 48 Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%) KINGHAM Sarah Annie 53 Watford 3a 433
Household transcription 1911 census Person: KINGHAM, Henry Institution: Watford Union Workhouse And Infirmary, WATFORD UNION WORKHOUSE
KINGHAM, Henry Inmate Widower M 60 1851 Paper Machinist Herts Kings Langley VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 7721 Reference: RG14PN7721 RD140 SD2 ED23 SN9999 Registration District: Watford Sub District: Watford Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Watford Urban Address: 60 Vicarage Road Watford County: Hertfordshire
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28 Oct 2013 12:11 |
..England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Henry Adin Sly Name: Henry Adin Sly Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1854 Registration District: Faringdon Inferred County: Berkshire Volume: 2c Page: 218
..London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Sly Name: Henry Sly Age: Minor Spouse Name: Harriett Amelia Griggs Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Oct 1873 Parish: St Marylebone Borough: Westminster Father Name: Adin Sly Spouse Father Name: Joseph Griggs Register Type: Parish Register
1881 England Census about Henry Sly Name: Henry Sly Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Harriett Sly Gender: Male Where born: Waterfield, Berkshire, England [Watchfield, Berkshire, England] Civil Parish: Marylebone County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 43 Devonshire St Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Carpenter Registration District: Marylebone Sub-registration District: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 152 Folio: 96 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Henry Sly 27 Harriett Sly 29 Percy Sly 7 Herbert Sly 5 Amelia Sly 3 Harry Sly 1 Emma Durrant 63 (Lodger)
..1891 England Census about Henery Sly Name: Henery Sly [Henry Sly] Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Harrell Sly Gender: Male Where born: Watchfield, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Paddington Sub-registration District: St Mary Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 5a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2 Folio: 42 Page Number: 76 Household Members: Name Age Henery Sly 37 Harrell Sly 40 Herbert Sly 15 Amelia Sly 13 Harry Sly 11 Harry Sly 9 Emily Sly 6 William Sly 4 Lily Sly 1 England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Harriett Amelia Sly Name: Harriett Amelia Sly Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1894 Age at Death: 42 Registration District: Kensington Inferred County: London Volume: 1a Page: 71 England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Henry Sly Name: Henry Sly Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1898 Registration District: Paddington Inferred County: London Volume Number: 1a Page Number: 88 Records on Page: Name Mary Cowley Henry Sly 1901 England Census about Henry Sly Name: Henry Sly Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Sly Gender: Male Where born: Berkshire, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Somers Town County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: St Pancras Sub-registration District: Somers Town ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 122 Piece: 146 Folio: 13 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Henry Sly 46 Mary Sly 39 Arthur Sly 13 Lillian Sly 11
..England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Henry Sly Name: Henry Sly Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906 Age at Death: 52 Registration District: Kensington Inferred County: London Volume: 1a Page: 110
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