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Said possibly because birth years and where born

They seem to travel around and are on the vessel on the 1872 census

1871 census

Name: Samuel Fallows
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Master of vessel Fanny Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Northwich, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Windle
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Prescot
Sub-registration District: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household Schedule Number: 242
Piece: 3863
Folio: 183
Page Number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Thomson 48
Mary Thomson 46
Charles Thomson 21
Margaret Thomson 29
Samuel Fallows 56
Catharine Fallows 50
William Fallows 18
Ernest Fallows 12

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3863; Folio: 183; Page: 52; GSU roll: 841935.

Hi there - why do you say the 1861 is only a possibility?

Thank you.

Eliza Fallows on the 1871

1871 England Census about Eliza Fallows
Name: Eliza Fallows
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Northwich
Civil Parish: Barton upon Irwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Patricroft Christchurch
Town: Eccles
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Barton Upon Irwell
Sub-registration District: Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household Schedule Number: 59
Piece: 3969
Folio: 87
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jackson 29
Emily Rogerson 22
Jane R Jackson 8
John Jackson 7
Florence R Jackson 2
Eliza Fallows 17
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3969; Folio: 87; Page: 13; GSU roll: 841957.

Possibly them
1861 England Census about Samuel Fallows
Name: Samuel Fallows
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catharine Fallows
[Mary A Fallows]
[Eliza Fallows]
Gender: Male
Where born: Witton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Witton
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:waterman

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Northwich
Sub-registration District: Northwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 239
Piece: 2604
Folio: 52
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Fallows 37
Catharine Fallows 35
Mary A Fallows 9
Eliza Fallows 6
William Fallows 5

I wonder if John lied about his age to make his age closer to his wife?!

Samuel Woods

Father

England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000



child:John Woods
other:Mary Elizabeth Davies, Henry Davies

NameJohn Woods
Event TypeMarriage
Event Date18 Nov 1895
Event PlaceAll Saints, Runcorn, Cheshire, England
GenderMale
Age (Formatted)41y
Marital StatusSingle
Father's NameSamuel Woods
Mother's Name
Spouse's NameMary Elizabeth Davies
Spouse's Marital StatusSingle
Spouse's Father's NameHenry Davies
Spouse's Mother's Name
GS Film number1656551
Digital Folder Number004018386

Born c1855 now !

1911 England Census about John Woods
Name: John Woods
Age in 1911: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Runcorn
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: 25 York St Runcorn
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Chemical Labourer
Registration District: Runcorn
Registration District Number: 446
Sub-registration District: Runcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 21632
Household Members:
Name Age
John Woods 56
Mary Elizabeth Woods 45
John Henry Woods 14
Jane Woods 12
Harriett Annie Woods 11
Henry James Davies 53 brother in law railway guard RNLR


Married 15 years 3 children born

Birth year is given as 1854 on the 1901

Name: John Woods
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary E Woods
Gender: Male
Where born: Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Runcorn
Ecclesiastical parish: Runcorn All Saints
Town: Runcorn
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Runcorn
Sub-registration District: Runcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 102
Piece: 3336
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John Woods 47
Mary E Woods 35
John Henry Woods 4
Jane Woods 2
Harriet A Woods 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3336; Folio: 13; Page: 17.

Ah thank you - perhaps the problem was I had her birth place as Runcorn. Does she appear in other census returns? Did she have children?

This looks like them

Name: Catherine Fallows
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Samuel Fallows
Gender: Female
Where born: Widnes, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Widnes
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: "Ann" Canal Flat
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Prescot
Sub-registration District: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3724
Folio: 116
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Fallows 57
Catherine Fallows 51
Thomas Clare 14

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3724; Folio: 116; Page: 50; GSU roll: 1341892.

Hi there,

This is related to a thread which I have been helped with. I am much appreciative of this help but have a few more specific points to ask for and I was concerned they may be lost on the previous thread, which is this one here:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1333095

Firstly, can I have a look up in all of the census returns for Catherine 'Kitty' Fallows, born Catherine Woods in 1828 in Runcorn, Cheshire and wife of Samuel Fallows ... I THINK this is her death but I couldn't find her on the 1881 census:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1913 (>99%)
Fallows Catherine 87 Runcorn 8a 294 Scan available - click to view

Also, her much younger brother, John Woods, born 1850 in Runcorn, Cheshire ... I am only looking for him in the 1911 census with his wife Mary. In 1901 he had children John, Jane and Harriet (born 1897, 1899 and 1900 respectively).

Thank you in advance!