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1881 census has William Joseph Chapman ( B.1861 Silverstone Northamptonshire) living with his parents George and Hannah Chapman and his brother George. I can not find him in shipping records, he obtained mining and land rights in Coramba New South Wales in 1889 to 1896. He married in Adelaide in 1893 then took his new bride back to Coramba and had his first child there. I would be very grateful if some one would please do a search in Shipping Passengers for me. He must have left some time after 1881 as he was not in the 1891 England census. He may have came out with a brother Charles Chapman who was a couple of years older. Regards Lorri. :-)

That 1881 for ref. When was Charles born as I can't seem to find him?


1881 England Census about George Chapman
Name: George Chapman
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: George Chapman
Mother: Hannah Chapman
Gender: Male
Where born: Silverstone, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Silverstone
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address: Cattle End
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration District: Towcester
Sub-registration District: Abthorpe
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1534
Folio: 111
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
George Chapman 73
Hannah Chapman 53
William Chapman 20
George Chapman 16



1871 England Census about George Chapman
Name: George Chapman
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Chapman
Mother's Name: Hannah Chapman
Gender: Male
Where born: Silverstone
Civil Parish: Silverstone
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration District: Towcester
Sub-registration District: Abthorp
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household Schedule Number: 94
Piece: 1471
Folio: 35
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
George Chapman 64
Hannah Chapman 44
William S E Chapman 9 (think the middle initial is Jos)
George Chapman 6
Honey Whitmore 19

Migration records on FMP cover 1890-1960

As he was in Australia in 1889.............................

Thank you Alviegal for your reply, Charles I believe was William J Chapman's half brother, George Chapman was a widower when he married Hannah Summers in 1856. I have not been able to find any details yet of George's (b.abt 1808) first marriage. I think Charles may have been born early 1850's.
I also found the census 1871 & 1881 and they are my Chapman's.
Regards Lorri.

Reggie thank you for your reply, I was afraid that may have been the case. Incoming passenger list to Australia a very vague.

Is this them? The son is John not Charles. I take it Charles was George's son.
Sorry for the misundertanding.

1861 census transcription details for: West End, Silverstone
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 924
Folio: 122
Page: 20
Reg. District: Towcester
Sub District: 1 Abthorpe
Parish: Silverstone
Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: Peterborough
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: West End, Silverstone
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHAPMAN, George Head Married M 53 1808 Farm Labourer
Silverstone, Northamptonshire
CHAPMAN, Anna Wife Married F 34 1827 Lace Maker
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
SUMMER, John Son Unmarried M 11 1850 Labourer
..., Northamptonshire




1851 census transcription details for: Furze Farm, Middle Claydon
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1724
Folio: 328
Page: 10
Reg. District: Buckingham
Sub District: Buckingham
Parish: Middle Claydon
Enum. District: 9 & 11
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Furze Farm, Middle Claydon
County: Buckinghamshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HINTON, Thomas Head Married M 55 1796 Farmer 221 Acres
Middle Claydon, Buckinghamshire
HINTON, Mary Wife Married F 46 1805 Farmers Wife
Winslow, Buckinghamshire
HINTON, Thomas Son Unmarried M 14 1837
Middle Claydon, Buckinghamshire
>>SOMERS, Hannah Servant Unmarried F 24 1827
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
STAIRS, Eliza Servant Unmarried F 17 1834
Grandborough, Buckinghamshire
BOYLE, Thomas Servant Married M 54 1797 Farm Labourer
Mayo Rochfield Ireland


and John with his grandparents.


1851 census transcription details for: Whitfield, Whitfield
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1735
Folio: 271
Page: 15
Reg. District: Brackley
Sub District: Brackley
Parish: Whitfield
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Whitfield, Whitfield
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SUMMERS, Thomas Head Married M 50 1801 Ag Lab
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
SUMMERS, Mary Wife Married F 51 1800 Lace Maker
Brackley, Northamptonshire
SUMMERS, Robert Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Ag Lab
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
SUMMERS, Amelia Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Lace Maker
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
SUMMERS, Rosetta Grand Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Lace Maker
Brackley, Northamptonshire
SUMMERS, Joseph Grand Son Unmarried M 9 1842 Scholar
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
SUMMERS, George Grand Son Unmarried M 7 1844 Scholar
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
SUMMERS, James Grand Son Unmarried M 8 1843 Scholar
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
>>SUMMERS, John Grand Son Unmarried M 2 1849
Whitfield, Northamptonshire
SUMMERS, Richard Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Cord Winder
Whitfield, Northamptonshire

???

This is the closest I'm seeing though I know the year of birth is out. It's not definite proof though.


New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 about William Chapman
Name: William Chapman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Age: 25
Port of Departure: Plymouth
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 2 Mar 1883
Vessel Name: Roslin Castle




Mariners and ships in Australian Waters
ROSLYN CASTLE
OF LIVERPOOL, THOS. ?, BURTHEN 1178 TONS
FROM THE PORT OF LONDON via PLYMOUTH TO SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, 16 MARCH 1883


CHAPMAN WILLIAM J. 25 PASSENGER IMMIGRANT

1861 census John was Hannah (down as Anna) son before her marriage to George Chapman.
That is Hannah as a servant 1851 census.
Charles was George's (1808) son to his first marriage, can not find name of Georges first wife.
thanks for shipping details it could be him.
Regards Lorri.

Lorri, how do you know about Charles please? Were there other siblings? Perhaps we could try to find out the name of George's first wife.

William Joseph Chapman named his first son after his brother Charles William Chapman. Williams first child was born in Coramba N.S.W. Australia in 1893.
Family stories tell of the William and Charles (Charles being older by a few years) coming to South Australia then travelling to NSW gold mines. William died in 1931 at the age of 70, his death certificate notes he had been in the Commonwealth of Australia for 50yr., making it approx. 1881 he left England. He met his wife in Adelaide, I have no idear what happened to Charles. I sent for one certificate for a Charles born 1855 Northamptonshire but came back wrong one as the father was a John Chapman (mother Lucy E. Mawby).
George & Hannah (William Joseph parents) I have received there marriage certificate (1856) it states Georges father as Joseph Chapman.
George was abt. 48 when he married Hannah.
Regards Lorri

Nudging to see if anyone else can find something.

thankyou I will keep trying to find, haven't given up yet.

Yes maybe another my find something
Regards Lorri :-D

nudging

This could be a possibility, coming up on ancestry but there is no image:

William Chapman
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1864
Place of Origin: Northampton, England
Ship Name: Duke of Argyll
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Moreton Bay
Arrival Date: 11 Aug 1888

The one who arrived 2/3/1883 was a joiner according to the image - but I think your William was an ag. labourer in 1881 so unlikely?

Thank you Flip, that one I believe is him, he was always down as a labourer, and the rest come together, thank you
Cheers,
Lorri.