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20 Oct 2013 00:17 |
Has anyone got access to Leicestershire Parish Registers? possibly St Margarets.
I am looking for the christening of John Thorpe born about 1812 and his marriage to Ann ? about 1835
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Household Information Street PASTURE LANE Parish ST MARGARET City LEICESTER County Leicestershire Country ENGLAND House Number House Name Registration District LEICESTER Town Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Collections from Great Britain Person 1 First Name JOHN Last Name THORPE Birth Year 1812 Age 29 Birth County LEICESTERSHIRE Gender Male Occupation Archive Reference HO107 Book 17 Folio 37 Page 23 Piece Number 604 Person 2 First Name ANN Last Name THORPE Birth Year 1810 Age 31 Birth County LEICESTERSHIRE Gender Female Occupation Archive Reference HO107 Book 17 Folio 37 Page 23 Piece Number 604 Person 3
Many Thanks
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20 Oct 2013 00:40 |
John Thorpe, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: John Thorpe Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Ann Liddons Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 17 Feb 1834 Event Place: St. Margaret'S Leicester, Leicester, England Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02070-4 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 592559 Reference ID: p10 #360
or could be Siddons
John Thorpe, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: John Thorpe Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Ann Siddons Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 17 Feb 1834 Event Place: Saint Margaret,Leicester,Leicester,England Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03461-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 596718 Reference ID:
found on family search
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20 Oct 2013 00:50 |
John Thorpe, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: John Thorpe Gender: Male Christening Date: 13 Nov 1811 Christening Place: ST MARGARET,LEICESTER,LEICESTER,ENGLAND Birth Date: 10 Nov 1811 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Thorpe Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Dinah Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03461-3 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 596716 Reference ID:
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Ozibird
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20 Oct 2013 01:06 |
1851 England Census Name: Dinah Thorpe Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787 Relation: Relative (Other Relative) Gender: F (Female) Where born: St Mary, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: 46 Pasture Lane <<<<<<<<<<<< I guess you know John is at 44 Pasture Lane in 1851. Occupation: widow Condition as to marriage: Registration District: Leicester Sub-registration District: East Leicester Piece: 2089 Folio: 427 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Henry Jones 42 Ann Jones 36 Mary A Jones 4 Dinah Thorpe 64
Possible Marriages Dec 1845 Dann Ann Leicester 15 214 Jones Henry Leicester 15 214 <<<<< THORP Ann Leicester 15 214 <<<<< VERNON George Leicester 15 214
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20 Oct 2013 01:22 |
1841 England Census Name: Dinah Thorpe Age: 34 - as per image. Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Gender: Female Where born: Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: St Margaret With Bishops Fee Hundred: Leicester Borough County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: Pasture Lane <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Occupation: Registration District: Leicester Sub-registration District: East Leicester Piece: 604 Book: 17 Folio: 40 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age John Thorpe 60 - stocking knitter, I think Dinah Thorpe 34 Susanah Thorpe 30 Ann Thorpe 20 Maria Thorpe 13
All born in county.
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Ozibird
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20 Oct 2013 01:32 |
Name: Thorpe, Event: Birth, Place: Leicester St Margaret, Father Name: John, Mother Name: Dinah
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Susanna Thorpe birth: 20 August 1809 christening: 23 August 1809 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: Jno. Thorpe mother: Diana
John Thorpe birth: 10 November 1811 christening: 13 November 1811 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: John Thorpe mother: Dinah
Mary Thorpe christening: 11 May 1814 St. Margaret, Leicester residence: Leicester father: John Thorpe mother: Dinah
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Mary Thorpe >>>> burial: 24 May 1814 St. Margaret, Leicester, England father: John Thorpe mother: Dinah
Ann Thorp christening: 21 July 1819 St Margaret's, Leicester father: John Thorp mother: Dinah
William Thorp christening: 27 September 1825 St. Margaret's, Leicester residence: Leicester father: John Thorp mother: Dinah
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William Thorp >>>>burial: 3 September 1826 St. Margaret'S, Leicester father: John Thorp mother: Dinah Thorp
Maria Thorpe christening: 1 May 1829 St. Margaret, Leicester residence: Leicester father: John Thorpe mother: Diana
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 " Name: John Thorpe Spouse's Name: Dinah Creacroft Event Date: 14 Feb 1809 Event Place: Saint Margaret,Leicester,Leicester,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03461-1
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David
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20 Oct 2013 10:49 |
Jax
Not 100% convinced about the marriage but I am very happy with the christening especially with what Ozbird has found. Hoping that the Parish registers will give parents names. For some reason I have Ann Thacker in my head but not 100% sure about that either
Actually , I stand corrected about "ann Thacker" - it was in fact Caroline Thacker who married married someone else in my family.
Ann siddons/Liddon looking more promising now
thanks
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20 Oct 2013 10:52 |
Ozbird
Your research has taught me a lesson!. finding Dinah living next door William in 1851 is key to my research.
Many thanks for the info it is looking extremely promising :-)
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KathleenBell
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20 Oct 2013 11:06 |
This looks like the birth of the youngest child in the 1841 census:-
Name: THORPE, Sarah Ann Registration district: Leicester County: Leicestershire Year of registration: 1840 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 15 Page no: 104
The certificate will give you Ann's maiden name.
Or this certificate:-
Name: THORPE, George Registration district: Leicester County: Leicestershire Year of registration: 1843 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 15 Page no: 92
or this one:-
Name: THORPE, Eliza Registration district: Leicester County: Leicestershire Year of registration: 1846 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 15 Page no: 100
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20 Oct 2013 11:19 |
Do you think John Thorpe's wife Ann could actually be Mary Ann?
John is described as a widower in the 1851 census but the only likely death for his wife is this one:-
Name: THORPE, Mary Ann Registration district: Leicester County: Leicestershire Year of registration: 1847 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Volume no: 15 Page no: 56
The only death of an Ann Thorpe around that time is this one but it would mean she was still alive in 1851:-
Name: THORPE, Ann Registration district: Leicester County: Leicestershire Year of registration: 1852 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Volume no: 7A Page no: 113
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David
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20 Oct 2013 11:53 |
Hi Kath
I have not yet researched the death of Ann Thorpe. the only thing we currently have is that "Ann" was her given name in the 1841 Census with John being her husband and William b1836 being her son.
Dave
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20 Oct 2013 15:49 |
Ozbird
Here we go
spouse: Dinah Creacroft Name John Thorpe Birth Date Birthplace Age Spouse's Name Dinah Creacroft Spouse's Birth Date Spouse's Birthplace Spouse's Age Event Date 14 Feb 1809 Event Place Saint Margaret,Leicester,Leicester,England Father's Name Mother's Name Spouse's Father's Name Spouse's Mother's Name Race Marital Status Previous Wife's Name Spouse's Race Spouse's Marital Status Spouse's Previous Husband's Name Indexing Project (Batch) Number M03461-1 System Origin England-ODM GS Film number 596718
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20 Oct 2013 21:02 |
Also
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" Name: Dinah Creacroft Gender: Female Christening Date: 06 Sep 1786 Christening Place: ST MARGARET, LEICESTER Birth Date: 04 Sep 1786 Father's Name: Joseph Creacroft Mother's Name: Dinah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03461-3
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Ozibird
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20 Oct 2013 21:09 |
Relative perhaps:
1841 England Census Name: Joseph Craycroft Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Gender: Male Where born: Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: St Margaret With Bishops Fee Hundred: Leicester Borough County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: Northumberland St Occupation: Tape Weaver (I think) Registration District: Leicester Sub-registration District: East Leicester Piece: 604 Book: 15 Folio: 19 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Jane Craycroft 58 Ann Craycroft 54 Joseph Craycroft 19 Harriet Craycroft 4
The elder ladies occupation is Ind't (meaning independent income) and they are all born in county.
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20 Oct 2013 21:14 |
And this is an interesting one. Before Dinah married perhaps. (If it is your Dinah - remember everything posted here are educated guesses, not proof.)
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" Name: Sarah Cracraft Gender: Female Christening Date: 19 Feb 1800 Christening Place: ALL SAINTS, LEICESTER Mother's Name: Dinah Cracraft Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03457-1
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20 Oct 2013 21:22 |
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Ann Crescroft birth: 8 June 1778 christening: 9 June 1778 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: Joseph Crescroft mother: Diana
Joseph Creacroft birth: 29 February 1780 christening: 1 March 1780 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: Joseph Creacroft mother: Diana
Thos. Creacraft birth: 14 April 1782 christening: 15 April 1782 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: Joseph Creacraft mother: Dinah
Jonathan Creacroft birth: 26 April 1784 christening: 26 April 1784 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: Joseph Creacroft mother: Dinah
It looks like the first Ann may have died. Ann Creacraft birth: 28 May 1789 christening: 12 June 1789 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: Joseph Creacraft mother: Dinah
Mary Creacroft birth: 13 January 1792 christening: 16 January 1792 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: Joseph Creacroft mother: Dinah
William Cracroft birth: 12 August 1794 christening: 18 August 1794 ST MARGARET, LEICESTER father: Joseph Cracroft mother: Dinah
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David
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21 Oct 2013 00:32 |
Hi Ozbird
All those are very positive and I have some of them already. I am currently not sure about the one at St Marin's with all the others being at St Margaret's. I will however keep that one in mind as the research continues.
Good News. I have just received a FULL transcript of Births, Marriages, Baptism and Burials for St Margarets - all 1387 pages of it! - that will keep me amused for a while ;-)
The earliest "Thorpe" I can find is 1615
Many thanks for you help, your research has moved my tree on tremendously
Dave :-D :-D
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Ozibird
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21 Oct 2013 21:15 |
Lucky you, Dave. Have fun.
Ozi
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