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Samantha
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18 Oct 2013 21:25 |
Stuck again on the other side of the family now. Looking for parents/grandparents/siblings of Dennis Albert Cooke.
I know that he was born 15/01/1927 in Devizes, Wiltshire Married Davina Leslie/Lesley Hunter in Salisbury in 1961 Died March 1972
They had 4 children, Michelle Robert Sandra & Andrea. I cannot seem to find any information about him apart from his date of birth and date of death. My nan (Davina) cannot remember anything about him sadly so i thought it would be nice to find out for her.
Any help appreciated, Thanks
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2013 21:31 |
If he knew his father, the details will be on the marriage cert
And please remove that address...................
You need to look at freebmd.............his birth is on there.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
..........you can use the info to find the marriage of his parents.........................and the names of siblings (if any)
For absolute certainty........buy the birth cert
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alviegal
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18 Oct 2013 21:32 |
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England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Dennis A Cooke Name: Dennis A Cooke Mother's Maiden Surname: Jones Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1927 Registration District: Salisbury Inferred County: Dorset Volume Number: 5a Page Number: 244
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KathleenBell
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18 Oct 2013 21:33 |
According to his birth record his mother's maiden name was Jones.
If his parents married in Wiltshire then this is the only likely marriage I can see:-
Name: COOKE, William T Registration district: Wilton County: Wiltshire Year of registration: 1920 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Jones Volume no: 5A Page no: 567
Name: JONES, Catherine E E Registration district: Wilton County: Wiltshire Year of registration: 1920 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Cooke Volume no: 5A Page no: 567
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Catherine
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18 Oct 2013 21:34 |
there's a death for him in Devizes, Wiltshire, but can't see a birth. Are you sure he was born there?
You need to buy his marriage cert. which will give you his father's name and occupation and his birth certificate will give you his mother's name, then you can look with more certainty at possible marriages for his parents. When you find that, their marriage cert. will give you both grandfather's names which help you go back even further. Without proof, all your findings will be just speculation.
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2013 21:38 |
The birth is on freebmd, Catherine..........I deliberately didn't post it....................so that Samantha could have the 'buzz' of finding it for herself.
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Samantha
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18 Oct 2013 21:44 |
Lol ok people thanks for all of your information, my nan said that he was born in Devizes but not being horrible to her I can't be sure about any of the information that she gives me. Address removed. Thank you also Kath, any information is currently putting me half a step forward than I am now so very much appreciated x
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Catherine
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18 Oct 2013 21:46 |
"If" it turns out to be correct, then this would fit with Kathleen's marriage:-
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Catherine Ellen E Jones Name: Catherine Ellen E Jones Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1889 Registration District: Wilton Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 5a Page: 199 ...........................
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Catherine Ellen Elizabeth Jones Name: Catherine Ellen Elizabeth Jones Gender: Female Christening Date: 28 Apr 1889 Christening Place: Wilton, Wiltshire, England Father's Name: James Joseph William Jones Mother's Name: Sarah Jane .....................................................
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Catherine Ellen E Cooke Name: Catherine Ellen E Cooke Birth Date: 22 Mar 1889 Date of Registration: Sep 1974 Age at Death: 85 Registration District: Salisbury Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 23 Page: 1825
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Catherine
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18 Oct 2013 21:56 |
Reggie, When I said I couldn't find a birth I meant in Devices, Wiltshire as Samantha posted on her thread. Hopefully by buying a few certs she will be able to proove that the info found is what she is looking for. :-)
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KathleenBell
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18 Oct 2013 21:59 |
If the christening record found above is correct then this is Catherine's father's death:-
Name: JONES, James Joseph W Registration district: Wilton County: Wiltshire Year of registration: 1897 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 52 Volume no: 5A Page no: 108
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Catherine
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18 Oct 2013 22:00 |
ancestry also links this with the marriage:-
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about William T Cooke Name: William T Cooke Birth Date: abt 1889 Date of Registration: Mar 1961 Age at Death: 72 Registration District: Salisbury Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 7c Page: 626 ............................................
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about William Thomas Cooke Name: William Thomas Cooke Probate Date: 9 Mar 1961 Death Date: 7 Jan 1961 Death Place: Salisbury Registry: Winchester, England Address: 39 The Avenue, Wilton To:- Catherine Ellen Elizabeth Cooke (widow) Effects:- £425 0d 8s
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Catherine
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18 Oct 2013 22:21 |
Looking for siblings, the following are all possible as they have correct name and mmn:-
Births Mar 1921 (>99%) Cooke Ronald G H Jones Wilton 5a 318 Births Jun 1931 (>99%) Cooke Valerie C Jones Wilton 5a 250 Births Dec 1936 (>99%) COOKE Mavis A Jones Andover 2c 375
Do you have any idea of Dennis's brothers or sisters.
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Catherine
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18 Oct 2013 22:26 |
Wilton, Salisbury and Andover are all military bases, so I'm wondering if William Thomas Cooke, Dennis's father was in the army? Marriage cert. will of course confirm.
If, that is the case then could be him in 1911:-
1911 England Census about William Thomas Cooke Name: William Thomas Cooke Age in 1911: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Gender: Male Birth Place: Deptford London, Kent, England County/Island: Military Country: England Military Unit: 2/the Kings Regt Registration District Number: 641 ED, institution, or vessel: India Piece: 34989
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Samantha
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18 Oct 2013 22:40 |
I have no idea about siblings, however i have a relative called Valerie who i call Aunt Valerie, working out from the possible DOB of her above that would make her 82 now, she is still alive... I think she may be my mums Aunt considering i call her Aunt??
I also just found this information from a bit of searching about which indicates different siblings but matches with the birth place on the 1911 census above:
Fathers Name: Esau/Esan Cooke 1853-1925 Mothers Name: Sarah Maria Cooke nee Rowland 1862-1920 William Thomas Cooke Born 3rd June 1888 in Deptford, London Baptised at Deptford, London 13th March 1892 Also baptised was Alice Louise born Oct 23rd 1879 and Isaac born July 27th 1891 Residence 69 Griffin Street Fathers profession - Baker
Wasnt sure how close this information was especially now that you have 3 different siblings although the place is correct, i suppose it is possible they had 6 children
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19 Oct 2013 15:41 |
1911 England Census Transcription Address:3 ST ANTHONY'S ROAD BOURNEMOUTH Parish:BOURNEMOUTH County:Hampshire Country:ENGLAND Registration District:CHRISTCHURCH Registration District Number:95 Registration Sub-District: Bournemouth SubDistrict Number:2 Enumeration District:10 Census Reference:RG14PN5841 RG78PN267 RD95 SD2 ED10 SN75
ALFRED HUTCHINS 1846 65 BRISTOL GLOST ENGLAND HEAD M Private Means ALICE MAUDE HUTCHINS 1868 43 LONDON ENGLAND WIFE M ALFRED JOHN AVALON HUTCHINS 1898 13 CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES SON School ETHEL MAUDE HUTCHINS 1899 12 CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES DAUGHTER School DOUGLAS MAY HUTCHINS 1905 6 CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES SON School VIOLET ALICE HUTCHINS 1907 4 CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES DAUGHTER KATHERINE ELLEN ELIZABETH JONES 1887 24 WILTON WILTS ENGLAND SERVANT House Parlour Maid CLARA PARSONS 1866 45 STALBRIDGE DORSET ENGLAND SERVANT Cook, House Maid WINIFRED FLORENCE MABEL HARRISON 1885 26 HALE WILTS ENGLAND SERVANT Nurse
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Address:8 SOUTH ST WILTON Parish:WILTON County:Wiltshire Country:ENGLAND Registration District:WILTON Registration District Number:254 Registration Sub-District: Wilton SubDistrict Number:1 Enumeration District:4 Census Reference:RG14PN12122 RG78PN680 RD254 SD1 ED4 SN52
GEORGE SHERGOLD 1861 50 WILTS WILTON HEAD M Foreman Platelayer SARAH SHERGOLD 1860 51 WILTS BROADCHALKE WIFE M GEORGE JONES 1887 24 VALETTA MALTA STEPSON S Gardeners Labourer (Domestic) GERTRUDE JONES 1895 16 WILTS WILTON STEPDAUGHTER S AMY JONES 1893 18 WILTS WILTON STEPDAUGHTER S DAISY SHERGOLD 1900 11 WILTS WILTON DAUGHTER School VIOLET SHERGOLD 1905 6 WILTS WILTON DAUGHTER School FRANK LAWRENCE 1880 31 WILTS WILTON BOARDER S Gardeners Labourer (Domestic)
[The mosern spelling is Broad Chalke - it's 9km SW of Wilton]
1901 England Census Transcription Street:SOUTH STREET Parish:WILTON County:Wiltshire Country:ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District:WILTON Enumeration District:4 Parliamentary Borough:THE SOUTHERN OR WILTON Registration District:WILTON Registration Sub-District: Wilton Enumeration District:4 Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:1958 Folio:25 Page:3
GEORGE SHERGOLD 1861 40 Wilton, Wilts HEAD M Slatelayer, S.W. Railway SARAH J SHERGOLD 1860 41 Broad Chalk, Wilts WIFE M Shopkeeper (Sweets) GEORGE B JONES 1887 14 Malta STEP SON S Stable Boy (Domestic) MATILDA SHERGOLD 1888 13 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER S Carpet Factory KATE SHERGOLD 1889 12 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER S KATE JONES 1889 12 Wilton, Wilts STEP DAUGHTER JOSEPH B SHERGOLD 1891 10 Wilton, Wilts SON BESSIE SHERGOLD 1892 9 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER AMY O JONES 1893 8 Wilton, Wilts STEP DAUGHTER GERTRUDE L JONES 1895 6 Wilton, Wilts STEP DAUGHTER DAISY H SHERGOLD 1900 1 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER CHARLES WEST 1841 60 Wilton, Wilts BOARDER
1891 England Census Transcription Street:SOUTH STREET Parish:WILTON Town:WILTON City:WILTON County:Wiltshire Country:ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District:WILTON Parliamentary Borough:SOUTH WILTSHIRE Registration District:WILTON Registration Sub-District 1 Wilton Enumeration District:4 Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:1622 Folio:54 Page:9
JAMES J W JONES 1850 41 Dublin, Ireland HEAD M Army Pensioner SARAH J JONES 1860 31 Broad Chalk, Wilts WIFE M GEORGE B JONES 1887 4 Malta SON Scholar KATHERINE E JONES 1889 2 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER KATHERINE EMM 1811 80 Dunhead, Wilts GRANDMOTHER W
2 h/h's earlier GEORGE SHERGOLD 1861 30 Wilton, Wilts HEAD M Platelayer L.S.R. KATE SHERGOLD 1865 26 Quidhampton, Wilts WIFE M MATILDA SHERGOLD 1888 3 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER Scholar KATE SHERGOLD 1889 2 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER JOSEPH B SHERGOLD 1891 0[10m] Wilton, Wilts SON
Using one of the local indexes at: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd specifically, http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1920 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference COOKE William T JONES Catherine E E Burcombe, St John the Baptist History Centre C15/1/170
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1885 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference SHERGOLD George BUCKLAND Kate Wilton, SS Mary & Nicholas History Centre C83/2/68
Deaths Mar 1893 (>99%) Shergold Kate 28 Wilton 5a 147
Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%) Jones James Joseph W 52 Wilton 5a 108
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference SHERGOLD George JONES Sarah J Wilton Register Office or Registrar Attended History Centre WIL_RO/2/160
Unfortunately, WiltsBMD has no Bs/Ds transcribed for the Wilton subdistrict.
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Samantha
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19 Oct 2013 21:33 |
Wow thank you so much for all of the above information, much appreciated
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