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1891 & 1901 Census look up please? Agnes Hodgekins

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Potty

Potty Report 18 Oct 2013 12:25

Possible baptism for Warren - the image looks more like Hodgkis:
Father doesn't agree with name on marriage - that was William

Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Warren Hodger

Name:Warren Hodger
Parish:Wyken
Baptism Date:7 Apr 1861
Father's Name:George Hodger - knife grinder
Mother's Name:Caroline Hodger

Abode given as "travellers"

Potty

Potty Report 18 Oct 2013 12:10

Yes, Steve, place of birth unknown. Ancestry gives Rosanah as Warren's mother but there is nothing on the image to show that. Also on the page is another gypsy family, the Fletchers but nothing to indicate a relationship to the Hodkinsons.

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 18 Oct 2013 07:18

Potty

Really interesting about the Gypsy connection. I presume the POB NK means place of birth unknown??

Thanks

Steve

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Oct 2013 16:42

1901

Name: Walter Banks
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter Banks
Mother's Name: Alice Banks
Gender: Male
Where born: United States (British Subject)

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-registration District: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 93
Piece: 2839
Folio: 130
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Banks 38, Jeweller (Gold), b. Birmingham
Alice Banks 35, b. Birmingham
Walter Banks 16
Laura Banks 12, b. Manchester
Lily Banks 10 b. Birmingham




That may be a second marriage for Walter (Senior)

Name: Walter Banks, Occ. Jeweller
Arrival Date: 4 Apr 1893
Birth Date: abt 1863
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Servia
Search Ship Database: Search the Servia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Travelling with wife Ellen aged 25 and son Walter aged 8


Name: Walter Banks, Occ. Labourer
Birth Date: abt 1864
Age: 28
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1892
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Teutonic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Teutonic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Official Number: 96334

Travelling with wife Ellen aged 22



Name: Walter Banks, Shop Assistant
Birth Date: abt 1864
Age: 31
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 15 May 1895
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Teutonic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Teutonic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Official Number: 4244

Travelling with wife Ellen aged 25 and son Walter aged 10

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 17 Oct 2013 14:46

Blimey and double Blimey!!

My Mum's cousin will be absolutely gobsmacked as she's born and bred Geordie, the news of her family roots will be BIG news

Thanks to all those who helped!

Steve

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 13:53

Maybe Agnes's gypsy background explains the change of occupation for Walter and a showman would travel around which could explain the move to Tyneside.

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 13:25

1861 England Census
Warren Hodgkinson
Age:2 Weeks
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861
Relation:Grandson
Mother's Name:Rosanah Hodkinson there is nothing on the image to indicate that she is his mother
Where born:Wyken, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish:Wyken

Catherine Hodgkinson 60 Widow, POB NK
Catherine Hodkinson 25 unmarried POB NK
Rosanah Hodkinson 23 unmarried POB NK
Warren Hodgkinson 2 Weeks

All shown as Gypsies which would tie up with fathers occupation on marriage

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 13:20

Given Warren's occupation, could this be his marriage? He just made his mark so wouldn't have known that the name was wrong:


Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
about Warren Hodgkiss
:
Warren Hodgkiss - Chimney sweep, Moor Street
Birth Year: abt 1860
Marriage Date:27 Jun 1881
Marriage Age:21
Marriage Place:Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England
Spouse:Elizabeth Wilson, Milk Street
Spouse Marriage Age:20
Father: William Hodgkiss - Tinker
Spouse's Father: Thomas Wilson, Labourer

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 13:06

Warren seems to have died young:

Warwickshire, England, Burials, 1813-1910

Warren Hodgekins

Birth Year: abt 1860
Parish:Meriden
Burial Date:5 Aug 1897
Burial Age:37

Images says died at Coventry, Warwickhire Hospital

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 12:53

Ellen from the 1891 seems to have been registered as Hodgekins:


Name:
Ellen Elizabeth Hodgekins

Date of Registration:
Jul-Aug-Sep 1888

Registration District:
Meriden

Inferred County:
Warwickshire

Volume:
6d

Page:
426

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 12:47

I think this is the family in 1891:


Name:Agnes Hodgkins
Age:8
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1883
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:Warren Hodgkins
Mother's Name:Elizabeth Hodgkins
Gender:Female
Where born:Cathein the Barnes, Warwickshire, England
CIvil Parish:Meriden

Warren Hodgkins 33 - chimney sweep
Elizabeth Hodgkins 29
Willie Hodgkins 9
Agnes Hodgkins 8
Florence A Hodgkins 6
George Hodgkins 5
Ellen E Hodgkins 2
Hebert Hodgkins 9/12

Edit: just noticed Jan has already posted this!

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 12:43

I wonder if this could be Agnes's birth (there is also one for a William Hodgkins in 1882, Meriden):


Births Jun 1883 (>99%)

HODGKINS Agnes Meriden 6d 459

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 12:37

William in 1901, living in Meriden, POB Hampden in Arden, which is close to Catherine-de-Barnes:

Elizabeth Hodgekins 38
William Hodgekins 19
George Hodgekins 15
Ellen Hodgekins 13
Bertie Hodgekins 12
Gerty Hodgekins 9
Ernest Hodgekins 7
Violet Hodgekins 4
Daily Hodgekins 4

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 12:34

A possible relative?


1911 England Census
Name:William Hodgekins
Age in 1911:29
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1882
Relation to Head:Head
Birth Place:Catherine De Barnes
Civil Parish:Meriden
County/Island:Warwickshire
Country:England
Street Address:Meriden Nr Coventry
Marital Status:Married

William Hodgekins 29
Ellen Elizabeth Hodgekins 27
William Warran Hodgekins 2


Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 17 Oct 2013 12:33

Blimey!

Walter Banks an American, that may well fit in with the profession description on his son's Herbert Stanley Banks birth cert in 1920, it reads "Showman" which is avery American description.

Thanks all!

Steve

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Oct 2013 12:31

891 England Census
Name: Agnes Hodgkins
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Warren Hodgkins
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hodgkins
Gender: Female
Where born: Cathein the Barnes, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Meriden
Ecclesiastical parish: Meriden
Town: Meriden
County/Island: Warwickshiree

Registration District: Meriden
Sub-registration District: Meriden

Warren Hodgkins 33
Elizabeth Hodgkins 29
Willie Hodgkins 9
Agnes Hodgkins 8
Florence A Hodgkins 6
George Hodgkins 5
Ellen E Hodgkins 2
Hebert Hodgkins 9/12


Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2013 12:29

Were any children born after 1911? Seems there may have been and MMN given as Hodgekins:


Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Banks Doris M Hodgekins Aston 6d 851 Scan available - click to view


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Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
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Banks Alfred S Hodgekins Aston 6d 832 Scan available - click to view


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Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
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Banks Herbert S Hodgekins Tynemouth 10b 526

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Oct 2013 12:28

1911 for reference

Agnes Banks
Age in 1911:29
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1882
Birth Place:Sollihull, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish:Birmingham
County/Island:Warwickshire
Street Address:2 Back 38 Tenby St North Bham


Walter Banks 28
Agnes Banks 29
Walter Banks 7
Eric Cecil Banks 2
Leslie Banks 11/12
Agnes Flora Banks 3 5/12


says married 6 years

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 17 Oct 2013 12:28

Potty

To be honest I can't really be paying out for certs and Mum's cousin is an OAP so I was just hoping that someone may have access to a record or two that may help. I'm trying as a favour to a relative, if it doesn't come to anything, then at least I can say I tried!

Steve

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Oct 2013 12:26

?

1901 England Census
Name: Agnes Hodgkins
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Solihull

Civil Parish: Aston Manor
Ecclesiastical parish: Lozells St Silas
County/Island: Warwickshire

Registration District: Aston
Sub-registration District: Aston Manor

Richard Adams 62
Elizabeth Adams 57
Nellie Adams 27
Ruth Adams 16
Edith Adams 7
Arthur Adams 20
William Adams 18
Thomas James 27
Agnes Hodgkins 19