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Finding Sarah Pre 1871 Marriage.

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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 14 Oct 2013 13:02

Just received the 1871 marriage cert for the following:

Marriage Date: 16th July 1871

Charles KIRKLAND (aged 22)
Father's name/Occupation: Richard Kirkland/Labourer.

Sarah Johnson (aged 19) living in Chesterfield
Father's name/Occupation: William Johnson/Miner.

Witnesses John & Rebecca Heath.

Have Charles living in Yorkshire in 1881, saying he's married but wife isn't with him. Would appreciate any help in locating Sarah pre marriage.

Thanks in anticipation,

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Oct 2013 13:11

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1861 census transcription details for: Speedwell Cottages, Staveley
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2536
Folio: 66
Page: 25
Reg. District: Chesterfield
Sub District: 4 Eckington
Parish: Staveley
Enum. District: 17C
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Speedwell Cottages, Staveley
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JOHNSON, William Head Married M 33 1828 Coal Miner
Brimington, Derbyshire
JOHNSON, Mary Wife Married F 31 1830
Derbyshire, Green Hill Lane
>>JOHNSON, Sarah F Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Wingfield, Derbyshire
JOHNSON, Ann E Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar
Clay Cross, Derbyshire
JOHNSON, William Son M 3 1858 Scholar
Staveley, Derbyshire
HEARNSHAW, Thomas Boarder Unmarried M 43 1818 Coal Miner
Brimley, Derbyshire
HEARNSHAW, Thomas Boarder Unmarried M 17 1844 Coal Miner
Brimley, Derbyshire
HEARNSHAW, Samuel Boarder M 13 1848 Coal Miner
Brimley, Derbyshire
HEARNSHAW, John Boarder M 9 1852 Coal Miner
Brimley, Derbyshire
JONES, George Boarder Unmarried M 24 1837 Coal Miner
Brimley, Derbyshire
WILLIAMS, Charlot Visitor Unmarried F 24 1837
Ripley, Derbyshire
WILLIAMS, Ann Visitor F 4 1857
Staveley, Derbyshire

EDIT Think it is Sarah J not F.

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Oct 2013 13:16

There is also this one. Do you know if she had a second name?


1861 census transcription details for: 91, Bottom Long Row, Claylane, Clay Cross
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2525
Folio: 93
Page: 13
Reg. District: Chesterfield
Sub District: 1 Ashover
Parish: Claylane
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: Clay Cross
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 91, Bottom Long Row, Claylane, Clay Cross
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JOHNSON, Ann Head Married F 42 1819
..., Derbyshire
JOHNSON, William Son Unmarried M 19 1842 ...
..., Derbyshire
JOHNSON, Georgina Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844
..., Derbyshire
JOHNSON, George Son Unmarried M 14 1847 Coal Miner
..., Derbyshire
JOHNSON, Eliza Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar
North Wingfield, Derbyshire
>>JOHNSON, Sarah A Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar
..., Derbyshire
JOHNSON, Hannah A Daughter F 1 1860
..., Derbyshire
COWES, John Boarder Unmarried M 43 1818 Coal Miner
..., Derbyshire
JOHNSON, Mary Granddaughter F 0 (8M) 1861
Clay Cross, Derbyshire


1871 census transcription details for: Long Row, Clay Cross
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3605
Folio: 23
Page: 18
Reg. District: Chesterfield
Sub District: Ashover
Parish: Clay Cross
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Long Row, Clay Cross
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CLEWS, John Head M 53 1818 Derbyshire
JOHNSON, Ann Housekeeper F 52 1819 Nottinghamshire
>>JOHNSON, Sarah A Own Daur F 17 1854 Derbyshire
JOHNSON, Hannah Own Daur F 11 1860 Derbyshire
SMITH, Thomas S A Boarder M 20 1851 Lincolnshire
PARKER, John Boarder M 18 1853 Lancashire


EDIT In 1851 Frederick is head of household, so not this one.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 14 Oct 2013 13:19

No second name recorded on the certificate.

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Oct 2013 13:26

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1871 census transcription details for: West Bars, Chesterfield
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3610
Folio: 36
Page: 21
Reg. District: Chesterfield
Sub District: Chesterfield
Parish: Chesterfield
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Chesterfield
Address: West Bars, Chesterfield
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WIDDISON, William Head M 50 1821 Nottinghamshire
WIDDISON, Ann Wife F 43 1828 Derbyshire
WIDDISON, Mary Daughter F 18 1853 Nottinghamshire
WIDDISON, Sarah Ann Daughter F 16 1855 Nottinghamshire
WIDDISON, George Father M 76 1795 Derbyshire
JACKSON, Mary Mother-In-Law F 77 1794 Derbyshire
>>JOHNSON, Sarah Servant F 19 1852 Derbyshire (Wingfield)

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Oct 2013 13:33

Is this Charles in 1891??

1891 census transcription details for: 19, Lyons Road, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3832
Folio: 52
Page: 9
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: Brightside
Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Enum. District: 33
Ecclesiastical District: Pitsmoor
City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: 19, Lyons Road, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KIRKLAND, Charles Husband Married M 42 1849 Labourer
Chesterfield, Derbyshire
KIRKLAND, Mary Ann Wife Married F 39 1852
Chesterfield, Derbyshire
KIRKLAND, Violet E Daughter Single F 7 1884 School
Sheffield
KIRKLAND, Fany E Daughter Single F 0 (8M) 1891
Sheffield
CANTWELL, Joseph Son Single M 12 1879 School
Sheffield
HODSON, Wm Ths Lodger Married M 40 1851 Labourer
Caunton, Nottinghamshire
HODSON, James Wm Lodger Single M 9 1882 School
Sheffield
WALKER, Elizabeth I Lodger Married F 41 1850
Chesterfield
WALKER, Char Lodger Single M 3 1888
Sheffield


and 1881


1881 census transcription details for: 19, Lyons Rd, Brightside Bierlow
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4660
Folio: 98
Page: 12
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: Brightside
Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 19, Lyons Rd, Brightside Bierlow
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CANTRELL, Thomas Head Married M 39 1842 Labourer In Iron Works
Calow, Derbyshire
CANTRELL, Mary A Wife Married F 32 1849
Chesterfield, Derbyshire
CANTRELL, Wm Hy Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Sheffield
CANTRELL, Tom Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Sheffield
CANTRELL, Isaac Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Sheffield
CANTRELL, Joseph Son Single M 2 1879 Scholar
Sheffield
CANTRELL, Edith A Daughter Single F 0 1881
Sheffield
CANTRELL, Eliza Servant Single F 13 1868 Servant (Dom)
Chesterfield, Derbyshire
BINKS, Enock Lodger Single M 22 1859 Coal Miner
Brampton, Derbyshire
KIRKLAND, Charles Lodger Married M 32 1849 Labourer In Iron Works
Chesterfield, Derbyshire



1871 census transcription details for: Kimberworth Road, Kimberworth, Masbrough
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 4707
Folio: 8
Page: 10
Reg. District: Rotherham
Sub District: Kimberworth
Parish: Kimberworth
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Kimberworth Road, Kimberworth, Masbrough
County: Yorkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
KIRKLAND, Charles Lodger M 22 1849 Chesterfield Derbyshire



1861 census transcription details for: Sheffield Road, Chesterfield
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2529
Folio: 20
Page: 42
Reg. District: Chesterfield
Sub District: 2 Chesterfield
Parish: Chesterfield
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Trinity Church
City/Municipal Borough: Chesterfield
Address: Sheffield Road, Chesterfield
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KIRKLAND, Richard Head Married M 53 1808 Labourer Maltster
Papplewick, Nottinghamshire
KIRKLAND, Maria Wife Married F 51 1810
Derby, Derbyshire
KIRKLAND, George Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Railway Labourer
Mansfield, Nottinghamshire
KIRKLAND, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 18 1843
Chesterfield, Derbyshire
KIRKLAND, Charles Son M 12 1849 Scholar
Chesterfield, Derbyshire

Dea

Dea Report 14 Oct 2013 13:37

Are there any addresses on the cert please?

Dea x

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Oct 2013 13:37

Sorry must leave this just now. Work always gets in the way. Will be back later.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 14 Oct 2013 13:38

That's him.

alviegal

alviegal Report 15 Oct 2013 18:47


1901 census transcription details for: 19, Lyons Road, Brightside Bierlow
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4377
Folio: 24
Page: 6
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: West Brightside
Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Enum. District: 32
Ecclesiastical District: Pitsmoor Christ Church
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 19, Lyons Road, Brightside Bierlow
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KIRKLAND, Charles Head Married M 52 1849 Labourer Steel Works
Chesterfield, Derbyshire
KIRKLAND, Mary A Wife Married F 51 1850
Chesterfield, Derbyshire
KIRKLAND, Violet E Daughter Single F 17 1884 At Home
Sheffield, Yorkshire
KIRKLAND, Fanny E Daughter Single F 11 1890
Sheffield, Yorkshire
KIRKLAND, Enoch S Son Single M 9 1892
Sheffield, Yorkshire
CANTRELL, Joseph Step Son Single M 22 1879 Hairdresser
Sheffield, Yorkshire
CANTRELL, Emily Daughter-In-Law Married F 25 1876
Sheffield, Yorkshire
CANTRELL, William Grand Son M 3 1898
Sheffield, Yorkshire
CANTRELL, Edith G Grand Daughter F 2 1899
Manchester, Lancashire
HODGSON, William H P Boarder Married M 51 1850 Labourer Steel Works
Caunton, Nottinghamshire


Why is his wife Mary Ann not Sarah? Same place and year of birth as Sarah. Same in 1891.
She appears to be Mary Ann Cantrell from the 1881 who has lost a few years off her age.


??

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record
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Year: 1867
Forenames: Thomas
Surname: CANTRELL
Spouse Forenames: Mary Ann
Spouse Surname: BINKS
Place: Chesterfield
Description: St.Mary & All Saints
County: Derbyshire
Country: England
Reg Office: 393
Register Entry: PC15/06/285
Record source: Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index
Data provider: Derbyshire Family History Society

alviegal

alviegal Report 15 Oct 2013 19:44

Don't know if you have all these?

KIRKLAND, Chas.Edward (son of Chas Kirkland, age 3 months).
Died at 19 Lyons Road; Buried on November 22, 1885 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 113, Section X1 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: 32077/37173.
Plot Owner: of .
Find Similar in Same Grave Same Household if Available Surname Match if Available

KIRKLAND, Clara J (dau of Chas Kirkland, age 1).
Died at 19 Lyons Rd; Buried on May 24, 1888 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 113, Section X1 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: 32077/38879.
Plot Owner: of .
Find Similar in Same Grave Same Household if Available Surname Match if Available

KIRKLAND, Harriet E (Daughter of Charles Kirkland, age 10 mths).
Died at 19 Lyons Road; Buried on September 4, 1889 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 113, Section X1 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: 32071/43311.
Plot Owner: of .

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KIRKLAND, Mary Ann (Widow, age 72).
Died at 2 Smilter Lane; Buried on May 14, 1921 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 113, Section X1 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: Officiating Minister, W G Largie: Removed from Sheffield Parish.
Plot Owner: of .

CANTRELL, Thos (Labourer, age 39).
Died at 19 Lyons Rd; Buried on August 10, 1881 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 113, Section X1 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: P.
Plot Owner: M A CANTRELL of 19lyons Road.


CANTRELL, Edith Ann (Dau of Mary A Cantrell, age 3).
Died at Sheffield Bor'gh Hospital; Buried on October 5, 1884 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 113, Section X1 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: 32077.
Plot Owner: of .


CANTRELL, Tom (Retired, age 82).
Died at Nether Edge Hospital; Buried on October 12, 1956 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 113, Section X1 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: Officiating Minister, G Hepher :Removed from Sheffield Parish.
Plot Owner: of .


http://www.sheffieldindexers.com

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 19 Oct 2013 10:27

Apologies for the delay in replying, daughter need the computer for uni work.

No address for Sarah on the marriage cert, simply puts 'Chesterfield'. Charles puts 'Newbold Road', no number.

Thanks for the information on the deceased children. Sarah is certainly proving to be a bit of a mystery, looks like I'll have to order Charles and Mary-Ann's marriage cert and see what he says his condition as to marriage was at the times, hopefully not another Kirkland is telling porkies.

Thanks for the help, very much appreciated. :-D