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Edward daniel jones

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Michelle

Michelle Report 10 Oct 2013 18:13

Need help,,!, have my grandads marriage cert, and does not match up to what I thought. He was born in 1911 but can not find a birth for him. Was married in 1938 and is 24 years on cert. can anyone help. Please. X shell

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2013 18:23

Welcome to the boards Michelle.

Can you give us the details on the marriage cert please.

Who did he marry and where did the marriage take place?

Who was his father and what was his occupation?

What address does it give?

Who were the witnesses?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2013 18:30

If he was 24 in 1938.........that would make him born 1914??

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2013 18:47

There are only 3 marriages registered for an Edward D Jones in 1938......

Jones Edward D Wathan Carmarthen 11a 1438

Jones Edward D Taylor Wrexham 11b 600

Jones Edward D Thomas Pontypridd 11a 971

Michelle

Michelle Report 10 Oct 2013 18:55

His marriage was to ulo Taylor in Wrexham , there was no father on the cert, and the witness were John Taylor and Annie smithurst . On his death cert it says 1911.

patchem

patchem Report 10 Oct 2013 19:55

The age on his death certificate can be wrong, if the informant did not know the correct year.

Was his wife of a similar age - could he have wanted to appear older on his marriage certificate?

patchem

patchem Report 10 Oct 2013 19:58

These are possibles for his birth:
Births Jun 1912
Jones Edward D Jones Wrexham 11b 445
Births Sep 1913
Jones Edward D Jones Wrexham 11b 457

The 1913 more likely to fit the age at marriage

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Oct 2013 20:00

Just for info

Name: Ulo Jones
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1906
Date of Registration: Aug 1984
Age at Death: 78
Registration District: Wrexham Maelor
Inferred County: Clwyd
Volume: 24
Page: 920


she is on 1911 census

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2013 20:07

???
with no father on marriage cert this could be a possible if mother may not have been married (unless this was a Jones marrying a Jones)
Name:
Edward D Jones
Mother's Maiden Name:
Jones
Date of Registration:
Jul-Aug-Sep 1913
Registration District:
Wrexham
Inferred County:
Denbighshire
Volume:
11b
Page:
457

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2013 20:16

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: TAYLOR, Ulo
Address: Queen's Ford Cottages Mulsford Near Malpas

TAYLOR, John Head Married M 40 1871 Labourer Flintshire Bangor VIEW
TAYLOR, Fanny Daughter F 13 1898 School Flintshire Worthenbury VIEW
TAYLOR, Edwin Son M 9 1902 Flintshire Worthenbury VIEW
TAYLOR, John Son M 6 1905 Aldford Cheshire VIEW
TAYLOR, Ulo Daughter F 5 1906 Aldford Cheshire VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 16170
Reference: RG14PN16170 RG78PN999 RD351 SD1 ED7 SN44
Registration District: Ellesmere
Sub District: Overton
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Worthenbury
Address: Queen's Ford Cottages Mulsford Near Malpas
County: Shropshire
(8 children born, 7 living, 1 had died)



1901 Wales Census
about Fanny Taylor Name: Fanny Taylor
Age in 1901: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Taylor
Mother's Name: Mary Taylor
Gender: Female
Where born: Worthenbury, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Worthenbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Worthenbury
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration District: Ellesmere
Sub-registration District: Overton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 37
Piece: 2547
Folio: 62
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
John Taylor 30 ...??? Agricultural Labourer
Mary Taylor 32
Eline Taylor 9 >>>>Elsie??
Annie Taylor 6
Fanny Taylor 3


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2013 20:35

Household transcription
1911 census
Person: TAYLOR, Annie
Address: Mulsford Hall Malpas Cheshire

HUXLEY, Thomas Head Married M 38 1873 Farmer Worthenbury Flintshire VIEW
HUXLEY, Ethel Eaton Wife Married4 years F 34 1877 Malpas Cheshire VIEW
HUXLEY, Ethel Mary Daughter F 2 1909 Worthenbury Flintshire VIEW
HUXLEY, Thomas Clifford Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Worthenbury Flintshire VIEW
HOULBROOKE, Mary Mother-In Law Widow F 74 1837 Private Means Godstison Salop VIEW
WATERSON, Clementina Aunt Widow F 62 1849 Private Means Flstock Salop VIEW
BRYAN, Harriet Charlotte Single F 38 1873 Monthly Nurse Liverpool VIEW
SPORTSON, Nellie Single F 27 1884 Cheese Maker Audlem Cheshire VIEW
BETTELEY, Mary Single F 23 1888 Dairy Servant Harnmer Flintshire VIEW
TAYLOR, Annie Single F 16 1895 Nurse Maid Worthenbury Flintshire VIEW
JAMES, William Single M 15 1896 Farm Labourer Worthenbury Flintsh VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 16170
Reference: RG14PN16170 RG78PN999 RD351 SD1 ED7 SN41
Registration District: Ellesmere
Sub District: Overton
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Worthenbury
Address: Mulsford Hall Malpas Cheshire
County: Shropshire

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2013 20:45

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: TAYLOR, Mary
Address: Lower House Kinnerton Near Chester

ROSCOE, Charles Head Married28 years M 49 1862 Waggenor On Farm Isycoed Denbighsh VIEW
ROSCOE, Mary Ann Wife Married F 47 1864 Worthenbury Flintshire VIEW
ROSCOE, Henry Son Single M 24 1887 Waggenor On Farm Aldford Cheshire VIEW
ROSCOE, Edward Son Single M 13 1898 At School Sealand Flintshire VIEW
BITHELL, Joseph Grandson Single M 6 1905 At School Eccleston Cheshire VIEW
TAYLOR, Mary Visitor Married F 42 1869 Worthenbury Flintshire VIEW
TAYLOR, Elsie Visitor Single F 19 1892 Domestic Servant Worthenbury Flintshire VIEW
TAYLOR, Fredrick Visitor Single M 1 1910 Worthenbury Flintshire VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 33980
Reference: RG14PN33980 RG78PN1962 RD620 SD1 ED17 SN19
Registration District: Hawarden
Sub District: Hawarden
Enumeration District: 17
Parish: Hope
Address: Lower House Kinnerton Near Chester
County: Flintshire
(8 children born, 7 living, 1 had died)

Michelle

Michelle Report 10 Oct 2013 21:12

I don't know if he wanted to appear older or younger but my nana, ulo Taylor lied about her age on the marriage cert, she put down she was 25 years , but was born in 1906, married in 1938 , that would of made her 32 yrs. was that a common thing to do, it that era.? Thanks for all your help everyone.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2013 22:27

As she was older than him she may well gave lied about her age .he too could have stretched the truth so as to narrow the gap a bit