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Kenneth
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4 Oct 2013 22:38 |
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Searched everywhere for death of John William Toy who was born in staffordshire 1869. Cannot find any trace. He appears in the 1971 census but no trace of him after that.
Can anyone please help.
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patchem
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4 Oct 2013 22:46 |
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Have you got his family in the 1881 census without him?
Thanks
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GlitterBaby
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4 Oct 2013 22:50 |
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he appears to use William as a possible on 1911
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4 Oct 2013 22:52 |
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Name: William John Toy
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1907
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1046
Records on Page: Name
Eliza Challoner
John Robert Davis
>>>Lydia Jane Hammond
William John Toy
This matches the possible on 1911
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MarieCeleste
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4 Oct 2013 22:52 |
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Possible?
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: John William Toy
Probate Date: 14 Sep 1946
Death Date: 9 Jul 1946
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Registry: Birmingham, England
Lived 198 Aldersley Road, Tettenhall, Staffs. Admin to widow Lydia Jane Troy. Effects £98 16s 3d.
Would fit with this death:
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: John W Toy
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Sep 1946
Age at Death: 76
Registration District: Bilston
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 2
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4 Oct 2013 22:53 |
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Name: John W Toy
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Sep 1946
Age at Death: 76
Registration District: Bilston
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 2
Name: John William Toy
Probate Date: 14 Sep 1946
Death Date: 9 Jul 1946
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Registry: Birmingham, England
198 Aldersley Rd, Tettenhall
Administration to Lydia Jane Toy, widow
Effects £98 16s 8d
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Andrew
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4 Oct 2013 22:54 |
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1891, using middle name?
Still in Tettenhall
Mary Nicholes 54
William H Nicholes 25
>>>>>William Tay 21 born Tettenhall, nephew, Assistant Butcher
Frederick Boulton 18
Elizabeth Hammond 14
Mary Hartshorn 46
Andy
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patchem
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4 Oct 2013 22:57 |
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1901 England Census
William Toy
Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Nephew Gender: Male
Where born: Tettenhall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tettenhall Ecclesiastical parish: Tettenhall St Michael
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration District: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household Schedule Number: 104 Piece: 2667 Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Mary Nicholl 63 head widowed butcher
Mary Hartsbom 56
Lydia Hammond 25
William Toy 32 journeyman butcher
William Rostance 20
Herbert Handley 18
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2667; Folio: 13; Page: 17.
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Andrew
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4 Oct 2013 23:00 |
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Looks like his father remarried in 1879. Perhaps that's why he left home to live with relatives
Andy
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4 Oct 2013 23:01 |
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1911
Name: William Toy
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: Wrottesley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Aldersley Road, Tettenhall
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Butcher
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Registration District Number: 369
Sub-registration District: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household Schedule Number: 159
Piece: 16985
Household Members: Name Age
William Toy 41
Lydia Toy 35
George Toy 2
Ethel Mary Toy 1/12
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MarieCeleste
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4 Oct 2013 23:02 |
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Address in 1911 fits with the probate:
TOY, William Head Married M 41 1870 Butcher Tettenhall Staffs
TOY, Lydia Wife Married 3 years F 35 1876 Bushbury Staffs
TOY, George Son M 2 1909 Tettenhall Staffs
TOY, Ethel Mary Daughter F 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Tettenhall Staffs
RG number: RG14 Piece: 16985
Reference: RG14PN16985 RG78PN1048 RD369 SD1 ED9 SN159
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub District: Tettenhall
Enumeration District: 9
Parish: Wrottesley
Address: Aldersley Road Tettenhall County: Staffordshire
4 children born, 2 still alive.
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patchem
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4 Oct 2013 23:11 |
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Does not appear to be with the Nicholls in 1881.
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patchem
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4 Oct 2013 23:16 |
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1881 England Census
William Toy Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male Where born: Tettenhall
Civil Parish: Tettenhall County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Wolverhampton Sub-registration District: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Piece: 2788 Folio: 18 Page Number: 30
Sarah Toy 76 head widowed
James Toy 31 son unmarried
William Toy 11 grandson
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2788; Folio: 18; Page: 30; GSU roll: 1341667.
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4 Oct 2013 23:16 |
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1881 did post this but deleted it
Name: William Toy
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Father: James Toy
Gender: Male
Where born: Tettenhall
Civil Parish: Tettenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Lower St
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration District: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2788
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Toy 76
James Toy 31
William Toy 11
Class: RG11; Piece: 2788; Folio: 18; Page: 30; GSU roll: 1341667.
James is shown as unmarried so might not be the father
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4 Oct 2013 23:19 |
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1871
Name: James Toy
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Toy
Mother's Name: Sarah Toy
Gender: Male
Where born: Tettenhall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tettenhall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration District: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 58
Piece: 2927
Folio: 39
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
John Toy 58
Sarah Toy 62
James Toy 22
Sarah Toy 19
Henery Brown 34
Mary Shapley 21
Class: RG10; Piece: 2927; Folio: 39; Page: 14; GSU roll: 836411.
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patchem
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4 Oct 2013 23:27 |
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Sarah, John, James etc and a Nicholls:
1861 England Census
John Toy Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Toy
Gender: Male Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tettenhall Ecclesiastical parish: Tettenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Registration District: Wolverhampton Sub-registration District: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Schedule Number: 95 Piece: 1984 Folio: 21 Page Number: 16
John Toy 46
xxxxSarah Toy 51
Thomas Toy 22
xxxxJohn Toy 20
William Toy 18
George Toy 16
xxxJames Toy 12
Sarah Toy 9
James Sweet 16
William Nicholls 29
Mary Hope 16
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1984; Folio: 21; Page: 16; GSU roll: 542898.
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Cynthia
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5 Oct 2013 11:52 |
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Hello Kenneth and welcome to the Community boards.
I'll let Kenneth know that he has replies. :-)
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Kenneth
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7 Oct 2013 09:23 |
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To all who replied to my thread many thanks. I have now established the date of death for John William Toy.
I think the fact that he started to use his second name (William) made him difficult for me to find.
Again, many thanks, Ken
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