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William Howard (b.1795) & Sarah Phelps (b.1799)

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Potty

Potty Report 8 Mar 2015 13:30

Is she named as Sarah Ann in the School entry form (she married just as Sarah)? If she is, this could be her baptism:


Name:Sarah Ann Grace
Baptism Date:10 Dec 1797
Parish:St Mary, Rotherhithe
County:Surrey
Borough:Southwark
Parent(s):John Grace,
Ann Grace
Record Type:Baptism
Register Type:Parish Register

Peter

Peter Report 8 Mar 2015 10:31

The marriage of William Howard has now been established as taken part on 5th August 1823 at St Edmunds, Lombard St, London with Sarah Ann Grace 1797-1868. Sarah was from another Thames 'barge working' family of Rotherhithe.
This information came from the entry of their son, Briton Michael Howard b.1835 on his entry to the Greenwich Hospital School in 1847, whereby the parents marriage date was recorded. This verified his parentage.

Researching:
Howard of Rotherhithe - Hill, Nash of Checkley, Rocester Staffordshire - Haviland of Guernsey, Winstone Goucestershire and London

Peter

Peter Report 8 Mar 2015 10:30

The marriage of William Howard has now been established as taken part on 5th August 1823 at St Edmunds, Lombard St, London with Sarah Ann Grace 1797-1868. Sarah was from another Thames 'barge working' family of Rotherhithe.
This information came from the entry of their son, Briton Michael Howard b.1835 on his entry to the Greenwich Hospital School in 1847, whereby the parents marriage date was recorded. This verified his parentage.

Researching:
Howard of Rotherhithe - Hill, Nash of Checkley, Rocester Staffordshire - Haviland of Guernsey, Winstone Goucestershire and London

Peter

Peter Report 3 Oct 2013 23:40

Hello again Glitter
Looking at the marriage entry again, it is Phelps as there is no dot above the 'i' so assume it is an 'e'. The other letter 'i' is dotted.

Researching:
Howard of Rotherhithe - Hill, Nash of Checkley, Rocester Staffordshire - Haviland of Guernsey, Winstone Goucestershire and London

Peter

Peter Report 3 Oct 2013 23:31

Thanks Glitter but the second entry for the same marriage is spelt Phelps.

Researching:
Howard of Rotherhithe - Hill, Nash of Checkley, Rocester Staffordshire - Haviland of Guernsey, Winstone Goucestershire and London

Peter

Peter Report 3 Oct 2013 23:29

1851 census Sarah born Surrey, Rotherhithe

Marriage to William Howard, 1823, Bermondsey, definitlely Phelps

Researching:
Howard of Rotherhithe - Hill, Nash of Checkley, Rocester Staffordshire - Haviland of Guernsey, Winstone Goucestershire and London

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Oct 2013 23:25

Could she have been Philips rather than Phelps


Name: William Howard
Spouse Name: Sarah Philps
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Oct 1823
Parish: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalen
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register


But does look like Phelps on image

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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Oct 2013 23:22

Have you found Sarah on any later census to show her place of birth

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Peter

Peter Report 3 Oct 2013 23:04

I have just discovered a Sarah Phelps (b.1799) married my great grandfather William Howard b.1795 (a Thames waterman then Master mariner) from a Thames boating family of Rotherhithe.

Sarah on 1841 census is noted as Harbour Mistress, so she has strong river connections. Their son Briton Michael Howard (b.1835) was also a Lighterman, also of Rotherhithe

Has anyone any information on Phelps or Howard trees that may help?

Thanks for any assistance - Pete Howard

Researching:
Howard of Rotherhithe - Hill, Nash of Checkley, Rocester Staffordshire - Haviland of Guernsey, Winstone Goucestershire and London