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Annie Butcher

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Patricia

Patricia Report 22 Sep 2013 03:03

Hello All,
I was wondering if someone could please help me find Annie Florence Butcher. Annie was born Annie Turrell in 1876 Surrey to Henry Francis Turrell and Fanny Jenkins. Annie married James Butcher 22-3-1896 Christchurch Brixton. I found James (Cab Driver) in the 1901 census at home with his mother Mary A Butcher and a uncle at Camberwell. Annie was not with him. I am wondering where she could have been in 1901. I think I found a death for James in 1901 after the census was taken.
Any help would be most appreciated. Thank You.
Patricia.

Susan

Susan Report 22 Sep 2013 06:07

Is this her .

1901 England Census
about Annie Butcher Name: Annie Butcher
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Peckham, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Elsted
Ecclesiastical parish: Elsted St Paul
Town: Elsted
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Domestic Servant

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Midhurst
Sub-registration District: Harting
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 13
Piece: 974
Folio: 22
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Frank E Barber 51
Louisa Barber 50
Eleanor Barber 21
Annie Butcher 24


patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2013 07:16

Have you got Annie's birth on free bmd and her in 1881 or 1891 census with her parents, for cross-reference?
Thank-you

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Sep 2013 07:40

If James was ill and unable to work then Annie could have taken a live in domestic post in order to support him

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Sep 2013 07:44

She hasn't remarried and still doing domestic work

Name: Annie Florence Butcher
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stockwell, London, England
Civil Parish: Wallington
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 16 St Michaels Road, Wallington, Surrey
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Domestic Housekeeper
Registration District: Croydon
Registration District Number: 39
Sub-registration District: Mitcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household Schedule Number: 283
Piece: 3429
Household Members:
Name Age
William Grinonnean 58 retired naturalist
Annie Florence Butcher 34


Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 3429; Schedule Number: 283.

patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2013 07:46

The Annie Butcher that Susan found could be this one;

Name: Annie E. Butcher
Birth: abt 1877 - Peckham, Surrey, England
Residence: 1881 - Sutton, Surrey, England

Name: Annie Butcher
Birth: abt 1877 - Peckham, Surrey, England
Residence: 1901 - Elsted, Elsted, Sussex, England

Name: Annie Eliza Butcher
Birth: abt 1879 - Peckham, Surrey, England
Residence: 2 Apr 1911 - Tottenham, Middlesex, England

patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2013 07:52

The Annie Florence that Shirley found in 1911 could be this one:

1901 England Census
Annie Butcher
Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Butcher
Gender: Female
xxxxWhere born: Stockwell, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Essex Country: England
Registration District: West Ham Sub-registration District: Forest Gate
ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Household Schedule Number: 4 Piece: 1594 Folio: 113 Page Number: 1
William Butcher 22
xxxxxAnnie Butcher 24
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1594; Folio: 113; Page: 1.

Vera

Vera Report 22 Sep 2013 08:11


Frances Henry Turrell occupation soldier
Spouse Name:
Fanny Jenkins
Record Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
3 Dec 1872
Parish:
Brixton St John the Evangelist
Borough:
Lambeth

Father Name:
Henry Turrell
Spouse Father Name:
Alfred Jenkins
Register Type:
Parish Register


So far cannot find them in 1881....as he was a soldier they could have been anywhere...maybe Ireland.

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First name(s): Francis H
Last name: TURRELL

Calculated year of birth: ?
Parish of birth: -
Town of birth: -
County of birth: -
Age at attestation:
Discharge date: 11 December 1882
Attestation corps: -
Attestation soldier number:
Discharge rank: Br
Discharge corps: Royal Artillery
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO121


Regards Vera

patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2013 08:30

Annie was born in Stockwell Surrey in 1876 in Patricia's tree
These are the births showing for female Turrells from 1874 to 1878 :
Births Jun 1874
Turrell Florence Annie Lambeth 1d 541
Births Jun 1876
TURRELL Alice Annie Lambeth 1d 489

Vera

Vera Report 22 Sep 2013 08:31

Deaths Dec 1890 (>99%) Possible
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Turrell Francis Henry 38 Lambeth


Regards Vera

patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2013 08:36

Florence Annie, 1874, appears to have parents John and Annie.

patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2013 08:46

Francis Henry was a coachman, deceased, at time of wedding

Annie Florence Turrell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Age: 19
Spouse Name: James Butcher
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Mar 1896
Parish: North Brixton Christ Church
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Francis Henry Turrell
Spouse Father Name: Henry Butcher
Register Type: Parish Register

Vera

Vera Report 22 Sep 2013 09:01


Found by Patchem.....

Annie Alice Turrell
Record Type:
Baptism
Baptism Date:
18 Jun 1876
Father's Name:
Francis Henry Turrell...............occupation contractor
Mother's Name:
Fanny Turrell

Parish or Poor Law Union:

Saint Peter, West Dulwich

Borough:
Lambeth

Register Type:
Parish Registers



William Joseph Atwood Turrell
Record Type:
Baptism

Baptism Date:
19 Oct 1879

Father's Name:
Francis Henry Turrell.............occupation soldier

Mother's Name:
Fanny Turrell

Parish or Poor Law Union:
Stockwell Green St Andrew

Borough:
Lambeth

Register Type:

Parish Registers



Regards Vera

Patricia

Patricia Report 22 Sep 2013 09:15

Thank you everyone for replying to my post. I have Annie's baptism as 18-6-1876 St Peter West Dulwich. She was baptised Annie Alice Turrell but when she married James Butcher she was noted as Annie Florence Turrell.
Susan, I am not sure that is her in 1901 as some of the census I look at had Annie as single not married.
Patcham, Annie was with her mother and siblings at North st Lambeth. Typo on her last name shows in 1881 as Tunnell. In 1891 she was at 16 Industry St Brixton under Furrell. You have the right Annie's marriage. her dad was a coachman when he died. It is confusing with the births on BDM Which one is she? I think James was about 9 years older than Annie according to marriage.
Vera. Yes her dad was a soldier and died in 1890.
Shirley, I think that is her in 1911. Thanks
Once again, Thanks everyone for you efforts in helping to find Annie. It is very much appreciated.
Best Wishes,
Patricia.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Sep 2013 09:39

The witnesses on Annie's marriage to James Butcher were Charles Mills and Fanny Mills, it appears her mother remarried

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Fanny Turrell - widow
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Age: 37
Spouse Name: Charles Mills - fishmonger (batchelor)
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Mar 1892
Parish: Walworth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Southwark
Spouse Father Name: William Mills
Register Type: Parish Register

patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2013 10:05

Just putting that 1881 census where she is A A (not A F) (The Florence was added to the marriage register)

1881 England Census
A.A. Tunnell Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Granddaughter
Mother: Fanny Tunnell
Gender: Female Where born: Stockwell, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England
Street Address: 6 A North Street
Registration District: Lambeth Sub-registration District: Kennington Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Piece: 609 Folio: 103 Page Number: 22
Josephine Jenkins 66
Fanny Tunnell 28
F.H. Tunnell 9
A.D. Tunnell 7
xxxx A.A. Tunnell 5
W. T. Tunnell 1
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 609; Folio: 103; Page: 22; GSU roll: 1341140.

Patricia

Patricia Report 22 Sep 2013 11:39

Hi Patcham,
So she was probably known as Annie Alice or Alice Annie then in 1881.
Thanks.
Patricia.

Patricia

Patricia Report 22 Sep 2013 11:40

Hello Marie,
Yes I did see that thanks.
Patricia.