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Please can anyone help with finding Parents or Siblings of Robert Vannan born in Ireland approx 1798 He married Isabella Higgins( born 1826 Glasgow). I have all the details of his children Ebenezer born 1850 Scotland Mary born 1851 and Jane born 1855 but nothing on his Parents or siblings Thanks Pam

1861 - for ref.

Name: Robert Vannan
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Isabella Vannan
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 483
Registration District: Kilsyth
Civil Parish: Kilsyth
Town: Kilsyth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Main Street
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 11
Household Schedule Number: 58
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1861_64
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Vannan 63
Isabella Vannan 33
Ebenezer Vannan 13
Mary Vannan 10
Jane Vannan 3


If he died in Scotland, his death registration will give his parents names including his mother's maiden surname if the informant knew the details.

Have you looked for the deaths of these Vannans living in the same area to check if they are related to Robert please?


1871

Name: Thomas Vannan
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Alexander Vannan
Where born: Kilsyth, Stirlingshire
Registration number: 483
Registration District: Kilsyth
Civil Parish: Kilsyth
Town: Kilsyth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Angle Land Main Street
Occupation: Peet Door Worker
ED: 8
Household Schedule Number: 140
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1871_84
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Vannan 68
Thomas Vannan 76

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1851

Name: Hellen Vannan
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Vannan
Mother's Name: Isabella Vannan
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilsyth, stirling
Parish Number: 364
Civil Parish: Kilsyth
Town: Kilsyth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Shutle Street
Occupation: Weaver
ED: 6
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 75
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_76
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Vannan 42
Isabella Vannan 25
Ebenezer Vannan 3
Mary Vannan 1 Mo
Hellen Vannan 24


Was it a second marriage for Robert then?

Is this your Ebenezer in 1871 please?

Name: Ebenezer Vannan
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Henry Vannan
Mother's Name: Richard Vannan
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/8
Registration District: Anderston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 8 Sandyford St
Occupation: Boilermaker
ED: 31
Household Schedule Number: 61
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_137
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Vannan 66
Richard Vannan 67
Ebenezer Vannan 26
Jane Eason 38
Emma Eason 16
Henry Eason 14
Lucy Eason 12
Richardina Eason 9
George Eason 4
Thomas Eason 3 Mo
John Dow 28
Jane Dow 24
William Dow 1 Mo

Thanks for all replies will check some more details. Not sure if was a second marriage but big difference in age so maybe The 1861 census is the correct one Thanks Pam

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1841

Name: Robt Vannan
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Kilsyth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Main Street
Parish Number: 483
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Wilson 50
Mary Wilson 42
Willm Whyte 19
Jean Wallace 72 <<< b. Stirlingshire
Robt Vannan 40


If you look on Familysearch.org There are some Vannan christenings with parents Ebenezer Vannan and Jean Wallace. None for Robert though - so perhaps they were in Ireland for a bit?

It wasn't uncommon for widowed ladies to be listed on the 1841 census using their maiden surname.

thanks for all your help with Robert Vannan born in Ireland not completed this yet.
I am also trying to find a Death for a William Vannan born 1908 Scotland He married Mary Doyle in Nov 1930 in Scotland and he was still around when he registered the death of his brother James in 1960 in Scotland. Have been unable to find his death Any help with this please Many Thanks Pam

When William registered the death of his brother James, what address did he give please? Have you been unable to find the death on Scotlandspeople?


Did you find a death on Scotlandspeople for Robert b. 1798?

Apologies for delay in replying but i have been away this week. I have not been able to find a death for William Vannan in Scotlands People. The address given for him when he registered his brothers death was 5 Hillpark Avenue Edinburgh. His brother died on 22nd January 1960. William was born on 27th Feb 1908. Any suggestions as to why I cant find it would be much appreciated Many Thanks Pam

I am still searching for Death of William Vannan born 27th Feb 1908 Scotland. I have traced him for a period of over 20 years at 5 Hillpark Avenue Edinburgh in the British Phone Directories up to 1979 This address is the one he gives when he registered the death of his brother James in 1960. Any help with finding this would be much appreciated. Thank you Pam

You could get his wife's death certificate to narrow the timescale for his death .

1981 VANNAN MARY Not Permissible DOYLE F 69 HAYMARKET EDINBURGH CITY/LOTHIAN REGION 730/00 0503

Have you eliminated this death for wILLIAM PLEASE?

1974 VANNAN WILLIAM Not Permissible M 66 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH) EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 734/00 0757

This looks like the death of Robert Vannan (b. 1798). It will give you the names of all spouses and the names of his parents including his mother's maiden surname if the informant knew the details.

1863 VANNAN ROBERT M 65 GLASGOW CENTRAL DISTRICT GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/01 0872

thanks for replies i have eliminated the death of William in 1974 as he still appears at 5 Hillpark Avenue Edinburgh every year until 1979 in British Phone Directories Thanks for info on Robert death in 1863. Kind regards Pam

Sorry but I wouldn't eliminate that William just because he still appears in the 'phone book. I know many widows who didn't change the entry after their husband had died.

My grandfather was William Vannan of 5 Hillpark Avenue, Edinburgh and he died in 1974. I am just starting to put together the family tree with my mother Sheila (Jessie) Vannan born 2/2/31
I would be interested in any information about my grandfather's family that you can provide
Thank you

Patricia, click on Pamela's name and send her a personal message as she may not be looking for replies now.

It certainly looks like you are researching the same family as Pamela as you have confirmed that that death that I had suggested for William was correct. As I said at the time, it wasn't unusual for widows not to change the telephone directory entry.

As there is a fair bit of information on this thread, I would suggest that if you need help with your Vanman family, it could be done on this thread. Perhaps others would disagree but probably best not to duplicate searches.

Good luck with your research.