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19 Sep 2013 12:51 |
Can anyone help me please. I see on the 1951 Electoral Roll that Ranald Kingsley (b1898) Neale and his wife, Eileen Muriel Goldney Neale (nee Snell) are living at 33D Holland Park, London. Also with them are: Eileen Patricia K Neale and John R K Neale are also living with them. I did not think that Ranald and Eileen had any children so this was a surprise but apart from the Electoral Roll I cant see any other information. They are there from 1951 to 1965. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chippygill
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19 Sep 2013 13:07 |
Apart from the ER, the only record which comes up is a marriage
Name: John R K Neale Removed as could be living, but not to an Eileen Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1961 Registration District: Garstang Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 10c Page Number: 509
As Ranald is listed as a Lt Col, could there be an overseas connection? Were the Neals an Army family?
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19 Sep 2013 13:08 |
try checking the births of Eileen & John to see the mmn
Its possible John is a relation t Ranald and Eileen is his wife. look on FreeBMD for them
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19 Sep 2013 13:11 |
Possibly Eileen's death?
First Name EILEEN PATRICIA K Last Name NEALE Gender Female Year 1994 Born 15 Dec 1922 District YEOVIL County Somerset Country England Event Quarter 4 District Number 7262 Entry Number 071
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19 Sep 2013 13:15 |
Appears to be coming to England for a temporary visit, headed to 10 St Andrew's Road, Bedford.
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Ranald Neale Birth Date: abt 1898 Age: 36 Port of Departure: Bombay, India Arrival Date: 31 Mar 1934 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Bombay Ship Name: City of Simla Shipping Line: City Line Ltd Official Number: 146273
In Indian Army
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19 Sep 2013 13:16 |
Name: Miss Patricia K Neale Gender: Female Age: 26 Birth Date: abt 1922 Departure Date: 17 Dec 1948 Port of Departure: Southampton, England Destination Port: Cape Town, South Africa Ship Name: Dominion Monarch
Last Residence 33D Holland Park. Permanent residence to be South Africa Occupation, Dance Teacher Travelling 1st Class
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19 Sep 2013 13:20 |
?? birth Name: Ranald Kingsley Neale Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1897 Registration District: Barton Regis Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 86
1901 England Census about Ranald Kingsley Neale Name: Ranald Kingsley Neale Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Lilian Gostelow Neale Gender: Male Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Twickenham Ecclesiastical parish: East Twickenham St Stephen County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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View Image Registration District: Brentford Sub-registration District: Twickenham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 181 Piece: 1188 Folio: 72 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Lilian Gostelow Neale 32 Herbert Cecil Threburn Neale 6 Albert Lewie Neale 5 Ranald Kingsley Neale 3 Letitia Liliah Neale 7 Months Mary Durnett 26 Jessie Louisa Russell 28
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1188; Folio: 72; Page: 26.
Name: Ranald Neale Birth Date: abt 1898 Age: 50 Port of Departure: Bombay, India Arrival Date: 24 Apr 1948 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Bombay Ship Name: Strathmore Search Ship Database: View the 'Strathmore' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd Official Number: 164521
part of Nawanager Party address in UK 33d Holland Park Road occ civil servant
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Ranald K Neale Name: Ranald K Neale Year: 1948 County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington Street Address: 33d Holland Park Road
with Eileen M G Neale and Eileen Patricia Kingsley Neale
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19 Sep 2013 13:22 |
you probably have all this but posting as it came up
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Ranald Kingsley Neale Name: Ranald Kingsley Neale Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 18 Jan 1902 Father's Name: Albert Ezra Neale Mother's Name: Lilian Gostelow Neale Parish or Poor Law Union: East Twickenham St Stephen Borough: Richmond upon Thames Register Type: Parish Registers
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19 Sep 2013 13:23 |
Possible Indian forces connection?
"Can anyone help with any information on Ranald Kingsley Neale who was in the 25th Punjabis in or around 1934."
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115074
No helpful replies as the site was intended for WW1 requests
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19 Sep 2013 13:26 |
From your? post on Genealogy.com
His mother was Lilian Gostelow Neale and he had 2 brothers, Herbert Cecil and Ranald Kingsley and 1 sister Letitia Lilian. I am not sure but there may have been a John Albert too.
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19 Sep 2013 13:31 |
didnt have any children with him when he went with Eileen Muriel to India in 1930
Britain: outbound passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 - person transcript
Print Close Name: Ranald NEALE Date of departure: 31 October 1930 Port of departure: London Destination port: Madras Destination country: India Date of Birth: 1897 (calculated from age) Age: 33 Marital Status: Married Sex: Male Occupation: Officer I A Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 6 The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Eileen Muriel NEALE Ship: MASHOBRA Official Number: 144222 Master's name: J H Galgey Steamship Line: B.I.S.N.Co.Ld Where bound: Calcutta, India Square feet: Registered tonnage: 5131.06 Passengers on voyage: 101 home address 34 Angelsey Road Alverstock occ Officer Indian Army
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19 Sep 2013 13:32 |
You might need to track down SA and Indian Army birth records.
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19 Sep 2013 13:41 |
1911 England Census about Emmeline M Shurbrow Name: Emmeline M Thubron Age in 1911: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Sister Gender: Female Birth Place: E Boldon, Durham, England Civil Parish: Bedford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street Address: 30 St Michaels Road, Bedford Marital Status: Single Occupation: Private Means Registration District: Bedford Registration District Number: 174 Sub-registration District: Bedford and Kempston ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household Schedule Number: 144 Piece: 8847 Household Members: Name Age
Cecil Neale 16 Leslie Neale 15 Ranald Neale 13 Letitia L Neale 10 Emmeline M Thubron 42 Alice Keech 16 servant
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 8847; Schedule Number: 144.
so living with a aunt posibly
the children are described as sons and daughter of the head of house who wasnt at home then
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19 Sep 2013 13:47 |
Name: Lilian Gostelow Thubron Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1893 Registration District: Gateshead Inferred County: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 1094 Records on Page: Name Elizabeth Jane Hope Robert Horn Albert Ezra Neale Lilian Gostelow Thubron
Name: Mrs Lilian gostelow Neale Birth Date: abt 1874 Age: 50 Port of Departure: Africa Arrival Date: 3 Mar 1924 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Lagos [Freetown] [Accra] [Plymouth] Ship Name: Appam Search Ship Database: View the 'Appam' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Elder Dempster Lines Ltd Official Number: 135442
with Dr Albert Ezra Neale doctor of Medicine address in UK c/o Dr SNELL 29 Cecil Court .Redcliffe Gardens, London SW7
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19 Sep 2013 13:49 |
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Lilian Gostelow Neale Name: Lilian Gostelow Neale Year: 1903 County or Borough: Hounslow Ward or Division/Constituency: Brentford Street Address: 77, Crown-road,Twickenham on her own
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19 Sep 2013 13:50 |
doesnt seem to be a John
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Record Letitia Lilian Neale 21 Sep 1900 Albert Esra Neale, Gostelow Neale East Twickenham St Stephen Richmond upon Thames View Record Albert Leslie Neale 18 Jan 1902 Albert Ezra Neale, Lilian Gostelow Neale East Twickenham St Stephen Richmond upon Thames View Record Herbert Cecil Thubron Neale 18 Jan 1902 Albert Ezra Neale, Lilian Gostelow Neale East Twickenham St Stephen Richmond upon Thames View Record Ranald Kingsley Neale 18 Jan 1902 Albert Ezra Neale, Lilian Gostelow Neale East Twickenham St Stephen Richmond upon Thames
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19 Sep 2013 14:02 |
1881 Scotland Census about Emmeline Thubron Name: Emmeline Thubron Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: England Registration number: 685/4 Registration District: St Giles Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts County: Midlothian Occupation: Scholar ED: 88 Household Schedule Number: 130 Line: 7 Roll: cssct1881_290 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Cranston 45 David Y Clark 23 Emmeline Thubron 17 Gertrude Thubron 16 Lilian Thubron 14 Elizabeth Scott 15 Mary Ann Geddes 17
Source Citation: Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts; ED: 88; Page: 18; Line: 7; Roll: cssct1881_290.
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19 Sep 2013 14:18 |
Hi Everyone Thanks for all the info. Yes, Ranald Neale was in the 25th Punjabis Indian Army and I am in the process of trying to get his records. It looks like that is the right Eileen PK on the passenger list for Cape Town. Thanks Gill
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19 Sep 2013 16:04 |
If you are willing to purchase the 1961 MC, the named father might fit in somewhere. It might be Ranald, or a different member of the Neale familiy.
Alternatively, it could be a red herring!
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