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Mulherron/ Fay Marriage Ireland Help Please

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2013 13:12

Just to satisfy my own curiosity. From Michael's birth certificate his parents married 13th October 1875 at Blackfriars, Glasgow.

So really we weren't looking for an Irish marriage at all.


1875 FAY GEORGE GATY MARY ANNE BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 0209


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2013 13:07

Births in the right area for Fay children

1878 FAY JANE F BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 0035
1876 FAY JOHN M BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 1103
1876 FAY JOHN M ST ROLLOX GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 1258
1877 FAY JOHN M DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0471
1878 FAY MARY F BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 0813
1880 FAY MICHAEL M BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 0272
1876 FAY SARAH F BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 1104

And possible deaths that may be some of the above

1877 FAY JOHN M 2 BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 0736
1879 FAY JOHN M 3 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 1127
1879 FAY MARY F 2 BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 0812
876 FAY SARAH F 0 BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 1127

Val

Val Report 13 Sep 2013 12:57

Thanks Rootgatherer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2013 12:54

Looks like Mary Ann's maiden name was Getty?

Deaths 1891 FAY MARY ANN GETTY F 39 ST ROLLOX GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0087

Marriages

1 1893 FAY GEORGE MOCHAN ANN ST ROLLOX GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0188
2 1893 FAY GEORGE RAFFERTY ANN ST ROLLOX GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0188

As both the above have the same year, District Number and Entry number, they refer to the same marriage. Ann Fay formerly Moonan maiden surname Rafferty.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2013 12:48

1881

Name: George Fay
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Maryama Fay
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 644/5
Registration District: Blackfriars
Civil Parish: Glasgow Robertson Memorial
County: Lanarkshire
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 9
Household Schedule Number: 12
Line: 18
Roll: cssct1881_226
Household Members:
Name Age
George Fay 34
Maryama Fay 35
Jane Fay 3
Michael Fay 1


Now look for the death of his first wife on Scotlandspeople to see if the names of her parents are recorded there.

Val

Val Report 13 Sep 2013 12:48

Thank you for the inofrmation

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Sep 2013 12:44

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1331431

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2013 12:44

1891

Name: George Fay
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 644/6
Registration District: St Rollox
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 145 Castle St
Occupation: Coal Hill Labourer
ED: 36
Household Schedule Number: 73
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1891_264
Household Members:
Name Age
George Fay 43
Jane Fay 13 Daughter, b. Glasgow
Michael Fay 11 Son, b. Glasgow
Sarah Tracy 23 Boarder, b. Ireland

A birth certificate for Jane or Michael will give their mother's name and date and place of marriage.


George's death registration (if he died in Scotland) will give his parents names and wife's name if the informant knew the details.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Sep 2013 12:43

Don't guess..............get factual info

The marriage between Mochan and Fay was obviously in Scotland.

Parental info will be on the cert

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Sep 2013 12:42

1881 census


Person: MOCHAN, Michael Address: 18, Villiers Street, City

MOCHAN, Michael Head Married M 28 1853 Foundry Labourer
Ireland
N/A
MOCHAN, Ann Wife Married F 28 1853
Ireland
N/A
MOCHAN, Michael Son Unmarried M 1 1880
Glasgow, Lanarkshire


Val

Val Report 13 Sep 2013 12:41

Was looking further back for a Male Fay marrying a Female Mulherron as I thought the link was that one not other side of tree

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Sep 2013 12:37

You need to look at all of the info..................... especially the STEPSONS

FAY, George Head Married M 50 1851 Coal Labourer
Ireland
N/A
FAY, Annie Wife Married F 44 1857
Ireland
N/A
FAY, Michael Son Single M 21 1880 Pottery Dipper
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
FAY, John Son M 6 1895 Scholar
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
MOCHAN, Michael Step Son Single M 21 1880 General Labourer
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
MOCHAN, Patrick Step Son Single M 13 1888 Scholar
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
MCCAFFERTY, Francis Boarder Single M 28 1873 General Labourer
Greenock, Renfrewshire
N/A
MULHERON, George Cousin Single M 6 1895 Scholar
Ireland

You knew the forenames of the couple, so why didn't you post them?

Val

Val Report 13 Sep 2013 12:36

Looked at marriage and it is his wife who is the link Owen Lafferty/Rafferty and Mary Mulherron

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Sep 2013 12:35

Post 1901 for reference, please

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2013 12:34

Where did the family live please? Where was George John Mulheron recorded as cousin of George Fay?

Because a child born with the surname Fay and has a cousin Mulheron doesn't mean for sure that George Fay's mother was a Mulheron.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 13 Sep 2013 12:33

We would need a little more info such as first names to look for marriages but is this the family for ref please????????????????


1901 Scotland Census about George Mulheron
Name: George Mulheron
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relationship: Cousin
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 644/3
Registration District: Dennistoun
Civil Parish: Glasgow Townhead
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 117 Garngad Rd
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 92
Household Schedule Number: 22
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_277
Household Members:
Name Age
George Fay 50
Annie Fay 44
Michael Fay 21
John Fay 6
Michael Mochan 26
Patrick Mochan 13
Francis McCafferty 28
George Mulheron 6

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Sep 2013 12:33

Try.........................

https://familysearch.org/

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2013 12:29

Get George's birth registration from Scotldspeople and it will give the date and place of his parents marriage.

Val

Val Report 13 Sep 2013 12:15

One of the children was a George he was on Scotland 1901 with George John Mulherron down as a cousin

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2013 12:12

Any first names please. Have you found them on any census? Do you have names for any children?