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I'm trying to find my 2*G grandmother Sarah Ann Holden the info I have is her marriage cert which is Dec 9th 1855 at St James Church Dudley Worcester her father is William Holden a miner she married Richard Pickrell I have found them on 1861 census living in Shavers end Dudley &1871 in salop st Dudley on the 1861 Sarah birthplace is Sedgley Staffs & on the 1871 Gornal but I cannot find her before she married I know Gornal came under Sedgley I have looked under both Staffordshire & Worcestershire as on some Census it as Dudley as Staffordshire on others Worcestershire In 1891 Sarah now 58 was living at 16 Swan St Dudley she was a widow and her daughter Martha age 17 living with her Sarahs age differs slightly on last census, in 1861 age 25, 1871 35, on 1891 58

On the marriage cert it as Sarah Holden (no Ann)

Regards

Mary

do the witness names give any clue.where they family/

1841 maybe

1841 England Census about Sarah Holden
Name: Sarah Holden
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub-registration District: West Bromwich North East
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 977
Book: 10
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Willm Holden 60
Ann Holden 55
Hannah Holden 30
Humphrey Holden 15
Richard Holden 15
Saml Holden 12
Priscila Holden 10
Sarah Holden 9
James Holden 8

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 977; Book: 10; Civil Parish: West Bromwich; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration

I've tried to find her in 1841 and 1851 on Ancestry and FMP with no success so far.
What is her address on the marriage certificate?

I saw that too but the William Holden in the 1841 is a buckle maker not a miner.

1851 England Census about William Holden
Name: William Holden
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Holden
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: W Bromch, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub-registration District: West Bromwich North
ED, institution, or vessel: 1z
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Household Schedule Number: 112
Piece: 2026
Folio: 519
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
William Holden 71
Ann Holden 66
Thomas Holden 48
James Holden 18

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2026; Folio: 519; Page: 34; GSU roll: 87432.

William tho is a buckle maker on both census

1841/51 census has a family with father William HALLDEN.
there is a sarah ann with this family in Dudley.

address on the marriage certificate just says Dudley they married in St James Church Dudley

Its a little hard to read witness name it looks like James Webb and Elizabeth Webb I cannot find a connection to family

Regards

Mary

1841 in Sedgley:

William Hallden 25 Lab
Catherine 25
Sarah Ann 4
Ellen 2
Samuel 5 months

Same family in 1851, also in Sedgley:

William Haulding 39 miner labourer
Catherine Haulding 39
Elen Haulding 12
Samuel Haulding 10
Catherine Haulding 8
Joseph Haulding 5
Susanah Haulding 3
William James Haulding 10 Mo

I've just taken a look at William HALLDEN.I wonder if it's the spelling back then ??

It may be a possible as his wife is Catherine and Sarah and Richard had a daughter in 1864 named Catherine??

Regards

Mary

I think this is probably the correct family. The census enumerator would only be writing down the surname as he heard it.