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9 Sep 2013 22:22 |
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mgnv
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8 Sep 2013 00:48 |
5km SW of King's Langley is the village of Sarratt, and just outside of the village the R Chess runs thru Sarratt Bottom. Abt 50 y ago, one could ride along the footpath by the river (well you could ride in practice - I don't know abt the theory) - and see watercress growing in beds in the stream - it was only 18" deep maximum in normal summers. The attraction for a teenager was it was the only place within an easy bike ride with a ford marked on the map. I tried riding my bike across instead of taking a little 18" wide footbridge, but the cobbles in the river bed defeated me, so I had to put my foot down mid-stream, and I gave up, dismounted, and walked my bike thru the rest of the stream - I think it was abt 20' wide.
So I'm pretty sure Millie's dad grew watercress.
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7 Sep 2013 09:38 |
William Henry yates (21) married to Millicent Kingham @ Kings Langley Hertfordshire April 30thth 1904
Fathers:- Arthur William Yates (Blacksmith) Frederick Kingham (watercreast maker?)
Frederick Charles Yates (21) married to Margaret Morgan (28) @ Register office Reding Berks. 25th April 1907 Fathers:- Arthur William Yates (Blacksmith) David Morgan (farmer)
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ErikaH
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6 Sep 2013 22:16 |
You said you had the marriage certs................you've been asked to provide details, but haven't yet done so.
'inmate'......unlikely to refer to prison...........both sexes are recorded.
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Richard
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6 Sep 2013 17:43 |
Alviegal
I saw that "inmate"!!! was he in prison?
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Richard
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6 Sep 2013 17:40 |
my gt grandmother (sarah yates m to Arthur Yates) did "own" some lodges in Canada somewhere so this may be where margret was lodging.
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6 Sep 2013 17:31 |
sorry i haven't got to you all earlier but i don't get on here alot and i didn't expect all your replies
i shall read them thoroughly
richard
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MarieCeleste
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5 Sep 2013 09:08 |
No idea if this is the same chap, or a coincidence:
Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 Name: Frederick C Yates Location: Waterloo, Ontario Occupation: Barber << Electoral District: Waterloo South Year: 1953
Living 735 King Street with Mrs Ethel Yates and Charles F (postal clerk) and James (garage mechanic).
EDIT: Think it's a coincidence. Have found a 1928 marriage for a Frederick Yates, barber, born 1889 Preston England to an Ethel Cheesman, also from Preston, England.
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5 Sep 2013 08:45 |
Richard mentioned that he had both marriage certificates so it would be helpful if he could give us further info about Margaret, Frederick's wife - her age, her father etc.
Frederick was born 1885, the Margaret on that 1911 census was born c1871 so that's why further info would be useful.
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mgnv
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5 Sep 2013 03:24 |
Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%) MORGAN Margaret Reading 2c 813 Scan available - click to view PILCHER Bob Reading 2c 813 Scan available - click to view TAYLOR Emily Mabel Reading 2c 813 Scan available - click to view YATES Frederick Charles Reading 2c 813
So he left shortly after his marr.
t wasn't unusual for some family member, usually the head or an elder son, to go out first and get stuff sorted, like a job, accomadation, etc., and then for the rest of the family to follow on later.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001953758.pdf There is a Margaret Yates (Line 4), married but no spouse present, lodging in Winnipeg. She works as a domestic cook - her landlord says she immig 1906 - close enough, I'ld say - but I don't know it's Mrs Fred.
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5 Sep 2013 03:17 |
http://www.berkshirebmd.org.uk/ Berkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1907 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference YATES Frederick C MORGAN Margaret Reading Register Office Reading RG/42/18
Berkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1885 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference YATES Frederick Charles St Giles, Reading Reading STG/43/78
Berkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1887 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference YATES Esther A Tilehurst, Reading Reading TIL/19/26
Berkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1892 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference YATES Ernest Arthur St Mary, Reading Reading STM/49/47
Berkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1895 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference YATES Albert Edward St Mary, Reading Reading STM/53/64
For RNWMP files, check out: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-913.003-e.html
1911 - This guy is a barber: http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001951684.pdf
You can search 1916 via: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1916/Pages/1916.aspx but I don't see him.
Nor do I see any atestation papers for him: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php
MC's hit at LAC:
Ship: LAKE CHAMPLAIN Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Railway Co. Departure Port and Date (yyyy/mm/dd): Liverpool, England - 1907-05-08 Port and Date of Arrival: Quebec, Que. - 1907-05-19 Remarks: List Number: 6687[84] Reference: RG 76 Microfilm: T-489 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e147/e003663676.jpg
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MarieCeleste
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5 Sep 2013 00:27 |
This may have been his arrival in Canada:
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Fredk C Yates Name: Fredk C Yates Gender: Male Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Date of Arrival: 19 May 1907 Vessel: Lake Champlain Port of Arrival: Quebec Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Roll: T-489
He was a barber from Berks. Appeared to be heading to Winnipeg. Stated as married although travelling alone.
EDIT: Looks as though he must have travelled very soon after marriage.
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MarieCeleste
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5 Sep 2013 00:23 |
The 1911 Canadian census that alviegal posted is actually for the Selkirk Asylum.
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ErikaH
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4 Sep 2013 22:42 |
1911 census
Person: YATES, Albert Edward Address: 56 Chester Street Reading
YATES, Arthur William Head Married M 57 1854 Blacksmiths Pensioner Lechlade Gloucester VIEW YATES, Sarah Ann Wife F 52 1859 Buscot Berks VIEW YATES, Ernest Arthur Son Single M 19 1892 Manufacturing Engineers Clerk St Georges Reading Berks VIEW YATES, Albert Edward Son Single M 16 1895 Grocers Assistant St Georges Reading Berks
8 children born in marriage...........2 have died
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alviegal
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4 Sep 2013 22:37 |
??? Sorry, not sure what this is.
1911 Census of Canada about Frederick Chas Yates Name: Frederick Chas Yates Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 25 Birth Date: 1886 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Inmate Tribal: English Province: Manitoba District: Selkirk District Number: 22 Sub-District: Selkirk Sub-District Number: 32 Place of Habitation: Selkirk Angben Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Daris 46 Stefan Zelenka 29 Alfred Wm Hubbard 27 Frederick Chas Yates 25 Wm S D Angel 23 John Olarey 26 Mike F?? 29 Lizzie Johnson 29 Konrad Kuska 44 Maggie Obrian 38 John Vargo 16 Anna Healmanan 45 Peter Fehr 30 Cecili Darnet 26 Andrew G Labimer 37 Anne Lobick 25 Harry Taylor 25 Henry Hodson 36 John Jakusbine 45 John Barchersh 37 Katrina Feeson 23 Lydia Webber 44 Elizabeth ?? Orakovitoh 33 Bella Ryall 18 Ana 36 Thomas Crughan 35 Nellie Barman 19 Louis Jasey 28 Alfred Turrell 23 William Mc Dougall 27
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4 Sep 2013 22:37 |
1901 census
Person: YATES, Albert E Address: 639, Oxford Road, Reading St Mary
YATES, Arthur W Head Married M 47 1854 Blacksmith Lechlade, Gloucestershire VIEW YATES, Sarah A Wife Married F 41 1860 Buscot, Berkshire VIEW YATES, Esther A Daughter Single F 13 1888 Reading, Berkshire VIEW YATES, Ernest A Son Single M 9 1892 Reading, Berkshire VIEW YATES, Albert E Son Single M 6 1895 Reading, Berkshire VIEW HODGES, Emma Mother-In-Law Widow F 60 1841 Poulton, Gloucestershire VIEW TEGG, Joseph Lodger Single M 26 1875 General Labourer Tidmarsh, Berkshire VIEW CHURCH, Kate L Visitor Single F 26 1875 Domestic Cook Kedmore End, Oxfordshire
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4 Sep 2013 22:35 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Frederick Charles Yates Name: Frederick Charles Yates Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1907 Registration District: Reading Inferred County: Berkshire Volume Number: 2c Page Number: 813 Records on Page: Name Margaret Morgan Bob Pilcher Emily Mabel Taylor Frederick Charles Yates
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ErikaH
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4 Sep 2013 22:26 |
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Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%) Kingham Millicent H. Hempstead 3a 1401 Smith Arthur H. Hempstead 3a 1401 Wilson Elizabeth Ann H.Hempstead 3a 1401 Wilson Elizabeth Jane H.Hempstead 3a 1401 Yates William Henry H. Hempstead 3a 1401
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ErikaH
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4 Sep 2013 22:23 |
Births Mar 1883 (>99%)
Yates William Henry Faringdon 2c 279
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ErikaH
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4 Sep 2013 22:20 |
for INFO
1901 census
Person: YATES, William H Address: Waterside, Kings Langley
HODGES, Henry G Head Married M 38 1863 Rollerman Flour Mill Buscott, Berkshire VIEW HODGES, Martha Wife Married F 38 1863 Filkins, Oxfordshire VIEW HODGES, Ada C Daughter Single F 14 1887 Lechlade, Gloucestershire VIEW HODGES, Albert H G Son M 11 1890 Slough, Buckinghamshire VIEW HODGES, Arthur G Son M 10 1891 Slough, Buckinghamshire VIEW HODGES, Hubert S Son M 3 1898 Kings Langley, Hertfordshire VIEW YATES, William H Nephew Single M 18 1883 Worker In Flour Mill Lechlade, Gloucestershire VIEW
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