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5 Sep 2013 11:43 |
Nice one Choccy,possibilty it being her!
Maryb.
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Choccy
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5 Sep 2013 11:26 |
1911? born Felsome - could be Felsham, near Bury St Edmunds
RG14PN28072 RG78PN1603 RD511 SD2 ED30 SN1
Reg. District: Rotherham Sub District: South East Rotherham Parish: Tinsley Enum. District: 30 Address: Tinsley Hotel Carbrook Near Sheffield County: Yorkshire (West riding)
BANKS, John Edward Head Married M 43 1868 Publican Atherton Lancashire BANKS, Etty Wife Married 12 years F 40 1871 Assisting In The Business Tinsley Yorkshire BANKS, Jack Son Single M 11 1900 At School Tyldesley Lancashire BANKS, Lawrence Son Single M 10 1901 At School Tyldesley Lancashire BANKS, Joseph Son Single M 5 1906 At School Tinsley Yorkshire BANKS, Tommy Son Single M 4 1907 At School Tinsley Yorkshire BANKS, Dorothy Daughter Single F 3 1908 Tinsley Yorkshire CLARK, Aggie Barmaid Single F 19 1892 Assisting In Business Sheffield Yorkshire FLETCHER, Maggie Servant Single F 17 1894 Assisting In Business Warrington Lancashire JENKINSON, Dorothy Servant Single F 17 1894 Assisting In Business Tinsley Yorkshire >>>>>PURT, Mable Servant Single F 16 1895 Assisting In Business Felsome Suffolk
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5 Sep 2013 10:54 |
1911
Says 5 children born and 5 still living
Name: Daisy Wreyford Age in 1911: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Cold East Ilsington, Devon Civil Parish: Ilsington County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: 2 Cold East, Ilsington, Newton Abbot Registration District: Newton Abbot Registration District Number: 272 Sub-registration District: Ashburton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Schedule Number: 15 Piece: 12733 Household Members: Name Age John Wreyford 49 Lucy Jane Wreyford 41 James Wreyford 12 Daisy Wreyford 7 John Wreyford 5
Marriages Jun 1895 Harvey Lucy Jane Newton A. 5b 291 Wreyford John Newton A. 5b 291
1901
Name: John Wreyford Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Lucy Wreyford Gender: Male Where born: Teigngrace, Devon, England Civil Parish: Ilsington Ecclesiastical parish: Ilsington St Michael Town: Coldeast and Mounthill County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Newton Abbot Sub-registration District: Ashburton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 66 Piece: 2054 Folio: 45 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age John Wreyford 38 Lucy Wreyford 29 Willie Harvey 10 Mabel Wreyford 5 James Wreyford 2
So Mabel is with her parents in 1901 and can therefore be eliminated.
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Chris Ho :)
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5 Sep 2013 08:17 |
Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 Name: Mabel Purt Gender: Female Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Birth Place: Leigngrace St Devon Age: 28 Date of Arrival: Sep 1923 Port of Arrival: Quebec Port of Departure: Bristol, England Ship Name: Melita
(above is the married Mabel. Her sister Daisy Wreyford, Salem Place, Newton. Abbot, Devon, England, named as nearest relative, from Country she came)
Births Jun 1903 (>99%) (possibly) ----------------------------------------------- Wreyford Daisy Newton A. 5b 96
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Mary
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4 Sep 2013 21:30 |
Sorry Jackie,I was trying to explain that the Mabel Purt who died in Devon 1951 was not yours as she married a George Purt therefor her maiden name was Wreyford
Maryb.
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Jackie
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4 Sep 2013 21:04 |
Sorry I didn't answer last night was getting late, and have been at work today. Thank you all who have kindly looked at my question, and who have taken the time to help. Chris, yes John and Fred were brothers. Mary I don't know if Mabel, was married, don't think she was married to George Purt.
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Chris Ho :)
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4 Sep 2013 17:15 |
(looking at 1911 this morning, was John a brother?)
LAST, Mary Ann Head Widow F 65 1846 Beer House Keeper Bury S Eds Suffolk APPEL, Albert Son In Law Married M 40 1871 Groom Livery Stables Newport Isle of Wight APPEL, May Adopted Daughter Married12 years F 34 1877 Assistin In Business London APPEL, Violet Granddaughter F 5 1906 Bury S Eds Suffolk APPEL, Violet Granddaughter F 5 1906 Bury S Eds Suffolk POULTER, Harry Pettit Boarder Single M 33 1878 Butcher Uppend Cambshire PERT, John Boarder Single M 44 1867 Labourer General Bury S Eds Suffolk PERT, Fred Boarder Married M 42 1869 Labourer General Bury S Eds Suffolk RG number: RG14 Piece: 10620 Reference: RG14PN10620 RG78PN570 RD207 SD2 ED9 SN81 Registration District: Bury St Edmunds Sub District: Bury St Edmunds Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Bury St Edmunds Address: Plough Inn 83 Southgate St Bury St Eds County: Suffolk
Chris :)
edits (looks likely)
1891 PURT, Frederick Head Single M 22 1869 Agricultural Laborer Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk PURT, James Brother Single M 32 1859 Agricultural Laborer Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk PURT, John Brother Single M 23 1868 Agricultural Laborer Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk PURT, George Nephew M 6 1885 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk Piece: 1451 Folio: 133 Page: 26 Registration District: Bury St Edmunds Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds Municipal Borough: Bury St Edmunds Address: 13, St Martins Place, Bury St Edmunds County: Suffolk
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Mary
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4 Sep 2013 15:02 |
Well I have been through hundreds of Mable's none correct.
Frederick in WW1 his records state he is a widow next of kin his niece mrs Hutchinson 4 Church row.
1911 4,Church row Walter Hutchinson Annie Elizabeth Hutchinson 29 married 9 years. She was the daughter of Fredericks brother George.
Annie Elizabeth Purt married 1901.
No children or wife mentioned on his records. he fought in Galipoli got wounded later in 1918 he was a prisoner of war(not easy at his age) or any age come to think of it.
No sign of Emma's death.
A tree on Ancestry.co.uk has Mable having died in Devon ,but as stated above she was married to George Purt so clearly they have the wrong info!
Maryb.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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4 Sep 2013 08:06 |
Have you tried looking fir births for Mabel/Mable born in Bury St Edmunds reg district and following them up on the later census.
Chances are they didn't change her first name
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4 Sep 2013 08:00 |
Baptism (Find My Past) Entry:393 Day:3 Month:May Year:1872 Forenames:Emma Surname:Alderton Relationship: Father:Robert Occupation:Pensioner Mother:Mary Ann Abode: Parish:Bury St Edmunds, St Mary County:Suffolk Notes:Born 11 Apr. Late Lawless. 6 Nowton Rd Record source:Suffolk Baptism Index
(possible Emma)
Chris :)
1891 ALDERTON, Robert Head Married M 58 1833 Ironmongers Fitter Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk ALDERTON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 48 1843 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk ALDERTON, Emma Daughter Single F 21 1870 Stay Maker Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk ALDERTON, Robert Son Single M 16 1875 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk ALDERTON, Lousia Daughter F 10 1881 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk ALDERTON, Alfred Son M 8 1883 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk GRIMWOOD, Sarah Granddaughter Single F 21 1870 Stay Maker Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk GRIMWOOD, Walter Grandson Single M 32 1859 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk Piece: 1450 Folio: 12 Page: 16 Registration District: Bury St Edmunds Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds Municipal Borough: Bury St Edmunds Address: 16, Raingate Street, Bury St Edmunds County: Suffolk
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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4 Sep 2013 07:50 |
Who was the informant ?
Name: Frederick Purt Birth Date: abt 1870 Date of Registration: Sep 1936 Age at Death: 66 Registration District: Bury St edmunds Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 873
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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4 Sep 2013 07:41 |
Long shot. It's a children's home and she is training for service
Name: Mabel Finch Age in 1911: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation to Head: Inmate Children (Inmate) Gender: Female Birth Place: Bury St Edmunds Civil Parish: Charlwood Nutfield Horley County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: Duxhurst Farm Colony For Inebriates, Duxhurst, Near Reigate Marital Status: Single Registration District: Reigate Registration District Number: 37 Sub-registration District: Horley ED, institution, or vessel: 13-15 Piece: 3243
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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4 Sep 2013 07:30 |
Married before Mabel was born
Name: Frederick Purt Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1892 Registration District: Bury St Edmunds Inferred County: Suffolk Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 1105 Records on Page: Name Emma Alderton
Frederick Purt
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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4 Sep 2013 07:25 |
When did Fred and Elizabeth marry . Is it possible she was Elizabeth's daughter ?
He may have described her as adopted rather than a step daughter
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jax
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4 Sep 2013 00:38 |
I think the Mabel who died in Devon was a married lady
Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Purt George E Wreford Newton A. 5b 263 Scan available - click to view Wreford Mabel Purt Newton A. 5b 263 Scan available - click to view Wreyford Mabel Purt Newton A. 5b 263 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1895 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wreyford Mabel Newton A. 5b 129
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Barbara
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4 Sep 2013 00:22 |
As Jax says, there were no legal adoptions until 1927.
My grandfather was "adopted" by an aunt and uncle when both his parents died in the flu epidemic just before the turn of the century.
Could she possibly have been the daughter of a relative I wonder?
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Jackie
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4 Sep 2013 00:21 |
ok thank you Jax.
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Jackie
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4 Sep 2013 00:20 |
I couldn't find her after 1901 census Barbara, so not sure if she was married. Her dad was on 1911 census, but couldn't find her or wife anywhere
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4 Sep 2013 00:16 |
If she is listed as Pirt/Purt on the 1901 there is not much chance of finding out her birth name .
As there was no formal adaptions before 1927 there will not be any record...normally the adopted children listed on the census's are still listed in their birth name
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Barbara
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4 Sep 2013 00:15 |
Did Mabel marry? ? Name: Mabel Purt Birth Date: abt 1895 Date of Registration: Dec 1951 Age at Death: 56 Registration District: Newton Abbot Inferred County: Devon Volume: 7a Page: 498
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