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James and Susan

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Karin

Karin Report 2 Sep 2013 19:43

Hi,
This is driving me mad!
On the GR census for 1911 the re is a James Constable, born 1846 in Stoke, Staffs living in Middlesbrough.
His wife is Susan, born 1862 in New York and the marriage took place in 1906.( I take it in Middlesbrough)
I cannot find any records of the marriage anywhere and I would like to find out what Susan's maiden name was.
Can anyone help?
Ta!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Sep 2013 20:04

For info........

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: CONSTABLE, Susan
Address: 14 Cargo Fleet Road Middlesbrough

CONSTABLE, James Head Married M 64 1847 Labourer Ironworks Worcestershire Stoke Prior VIEW
CONSTABLE, Susan Wife Married5 years F 49 1862 America New York Resident VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 29241
Reference: RG14PN29241 RG78PN1695 RD535 SD2 ED3 SN343
Registration District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Middlesbrough East
Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Middlesbrough
Address: 14 Cargo Fleet Road Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire (North riding)

patchem

patchem Report 2 Sep 2013 20:06

Why do you assume the marriage was in Middlesbrough?

Dea

Dea Report 2 Sep 2013 20:09

The marriage was NOT in Middlesborough !!

Dea x

patchem

patchem Report 2 Sep 2013 20:10

For ref, 1881, have you got him in 1891 and 1901?

1881 England Census
James Constable Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Sarah Constable
Gender: Male Where born: Stoke, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Millom County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England Street Address: 65 Wellington St
Marital Status: Married Occupation: Iron Works Lab
Registration District: Bootle Sub-registration District: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b Piece: 5196 Folio: 107 Page Number: 49
James Constable 35
Sarah Constable 33
James Constable 9
Sarah A. Constable 6
Samuel Constable 4
Isaih Constable 2
David Constable
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5196; Folio: 107; Page: 49; GSU roll: 1342253.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Sep 2013 20:10

Hi Karin

Do you know if James and Susan had any children?

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Sep 2013 20:15

1891??

It is Constable on the image - Ancestry mistanscribed. No John

Sarah Dunne 42
James W Dunne 19
Samuel Dunne 14
Isaiah Dunne 12
David Dunne 10
Joseph Dunne 8
Robert Dunne 6
Ambrose G Dunne 3
Sarah A Dunne 16
Martha Dunne 5
Eliza R Dunne 1



Andy

Vera

Vera Report 2 Sep 2013 20:18

1891
Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CONSTABLE, Sarah Wife Married F 42 1849
Kingswinford, Worcestershire VIEW
CONSTABLE, James W Son Single M 19 1872 Iron Works Labourer
Staffordshire, Bailey Hill VIEW
CONSTABLE, Samuel Son Single M 14 1877 General Labourer
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
CONSTABLE, Isaiah Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
CONSTABLE, David Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Millom, Cumberland VIEW
CONSTABLE, Joseph Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Millom, Cumberland VIEW
CONSTABLE, Robert Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Millom, Cumberland VIEW
CONSTABLE, Ambrose G Son M 3 1888
Millom, Cumberland VIEW
CONSTABLE, Sarah A Daughter Single F 16 1875 General Servant Domestic
Kingswinford, Worcestershire VIEW
CONSTABLE, Martha Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Millom, Cumberland VIEW
CONSTABLE, Eliza R Daughter F 1 1890
Millom, Cumberland VIEW
Piece: 4321
Folio: 112
Page: 23
Registration District: Bootle
Civil Parish: Millom
Municipal Borough:
Address: 12, John Street, Millom
County: Cumberland


Regards Vera

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Sep 2013 20:19

1901, again no John, says Sarah is married

Sarah Constable 50
Samuel Constable 24
Joseph Constable 18
Robert Constable 16
Martha Constable 14
George Constable 12
Elizabeth Constable 10
Charles Constable 8


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Sep 2013 20:22

Sarah 1911?

Sarah Constable 61
Abram George Constable 22
Elizabeth Rebecca Constable 21
Charles Constable 19
Beatrice Mary Constable 8
Charles Richards 40
John Thomas Smith


It looks like her and John had split. John couldn't remarry, so no marriage record.

Andy

Karin

Karin Report 2 Sep 2013 20:33

Thanks for the replies, Susan was James's second wife and as he died in Middlesbrough in 1930 I thought he may have married there in 1906.
Sarah was his 1st wife and died in 1904 after bearing 11 children, phew!
I can't find any records of their marriage(Susan and James) apart from the 1911 census.
Thanks again :-)

Karin

Karin Report 2 Sep 2013 20:41

ps don't know about children as Susan was 44 when she got married.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Sep 2013 20:58

Hello Karin, do you actually have the certificate for the 1904 death you believe to be Sarah's?

Have to say I agree that it looks like they split and the 5 years married on the 1911 is possibly just how long James and Susan had been together.

Karin

Karin Report 2 Sep 2013 21:03

I don't have the death certificate for Sarah but I found it on the fbmd site.
It would help if I could find Susan's maiden name but I can't find it .
You could be right about them splitting up if I found the wrong Sarah on bmd.
It's a bit of a muddle but with your info I'll start again to make sure I have the right one.
Ta!

Mary

Mary Report 2 Sep 2013 21:21

Where was James in 1891 and 1901??
Sarah deffinately alive in 1911.

Maryb.

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Karin

Karin Report 2 Sep 2013 21:32

I think you are right, Sarah died in 1914, I got that wrong.
Seems they must have split up.