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John

John Report 2 Sep 2013 16:09

Looking at all the information above , there seems to be an uncanny resemblance between the 2 Edwin Woods, both had a father Thomas, mine married a Rhoda Pollard 1902 Burnley, the other Edwin had a mother Rhoda. Stated on my Edwin's marriage certificate ,he was a Secretary to a Limited Company, the other Edwin had the same career as stated on the 1911 census.Mine stated as being a Bookkeeper in the 1911 census , and on his Medical record, the other Edwin being a Bookkeeper in the 1901 census. Both had a sister with the initial L hence the Mrs L Hundle when mine went to Canada on Lemuel Hampsons passport. Without you to help me I wouldn't,t know which Edwin it would have been. Certainly my one comes out as not too good a person, leaving a child behind, clearing off to West Africa during WW1 returning and joining the Army only to be in it for 17 days, then clearing off to Canada after only being married to my Grandmother for a year and on her late husbands passport. Looking at the photo I have of him, he is such a handsome chap, he didn't look that sort of a person. Oh well they always say there is a skeleton in the family, he is ours.. I am on Genes under my husbands name but I am Josephine and the family is mine.

John

John Report 2 Sep 2013 15:21

Many. Thanks Catherine for your help, it certainly has solved a mystery regarding the bogus passport. I see that he had a daughter by his 1st marriage a Dorothy May Wood age 8 yrs on the 1911 census ,obviously when he went to West Africa she was left behind presume with his parents. We certainly never heard about her in the Hampson family.

John

John Report 2 Sep 2013 15:12

I am amazed that Edwin Wood only served in the army for 17 days and was given an army pension.

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 22:34

sorry John had to leave.

Found the military record and I think it must be your Edwin:-

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about Edwin Wood
Name: Edwin Wood
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Age at enlistment: 33
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 13096
Regiment Name: Royal Fusiliers 25th Battalion
Number of images: 3

Having a look at what it says he does give his occupation as Transport agent, West Africa, but his medical record gives his occuption as Book Keeper, and next of kin is his father.
If it had been the other Edwin, he would have given his next of kin as his wife and his marriage and children would have been listed on his record, as he was married in 1904.
I think the military record is therefore, your Edwin. He didn't stay in the army very long as the record also states that he served only 17 days. He was discharged on medical grounds (no longer fit for service).

John

John Report 1 Sep 2013 19:45

I am so pleased that at last a problem has been solved regarding Edwin Wood, it's only because I sent for the marriage cert for him that arrived a couple of days ago that I have been going into in depth.I never realised that. it was Edwin Wood travelled on the passport of Grandad , I thought it may have been a neighbour or friend. Nothing was ever said that Edwin had left Grandma.

John

John Report 1 Sep 2013 19:29

If you look in passenger lists you will find Lemuel William Hampson going to Philadelphia in 1901 age 18 but unable to find a passage back, ,he married Gertrude Hodgett in 1905 and died in 1917. Gertrude Hampson then married Edwin Wood in 1919. Then on the passenger list is Lemuel William Hampson again crossing to Canada.and now looking at the death you found Toronto it looks like Edwin Wood died within a few weeks after arrival and he was listed under his own name. I wonder if Grandma Gertrude Wood / Hampson ever knew that. I did write to the immigration office in Quebec a few years ago to find out about this Lemuel William Hampson listed for entry in 1920, they replied that they would not know if he was an imposter and the Bella Hampson also listed was possibly no connection. I have manage to find her family and she crossed with her sister and brother in law. She is no relation to our Hampsons

John

John Report 1 Sep 2013 19:10

I found Edwin Wood under Military Pensions b 1882 , on 1st page it mentions West Africa the following page states is father Thomas Wood

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 18:10

I've looked for the military record you mention but can't see it? Could you give some more details about it please,?

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 17:44

His parents look to be Thomas and Rhoda:-

1901 England Census about Edwin Wood
Name: Edwin Wood
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Wood
Mother's Name: Rhoda Wood
Gender: Male
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: Gannow St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:Book Keeper

Registration District: Burnley
Sub-registration District: West Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 7
Piece: 3872
Folio: 144
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wood 48
Rhoda Wood 52
Maggie Wood 22
Edwin Wood 20
Tom Wood 18
Lizzie Wood 14

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 17:41

for info, the other Edwin Wood:-

1911 England Census about Edwin Wood
Name: Edwin Wood
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 77 Nairne Street Burnley Lancs
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Lecretary To Limited Company
Registration District: Burnley
Registration District Number: 472
Sub-registration District: West Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 24843
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Wood 30
Martha Elizabeth Wood 29
Thomas Keirby Wood 1


EDIT:-
marriage for this couple:-

Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
Catlow Fanny Burnley 8e 527
Stanworth Martha Elizabeth Burnley 8e 527
Whitney John Robert Burnley 8e 527
Wood Edwin Burnley 8e 527


Another child born after 1911:-

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Wood Harold Stanworth Burnley 8e 433

but can't see any others!

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 17:21

this could be him coming back from Africa:-

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Edwin Wood
Name: Edwin Wood
Birth Date: abt 1880
Age: 34
Port of Departure: Elmina, Ghana
Arrival Date: 29 Sep 1914
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Calabar
[Lagos]
[Accra]
[Plymouth]
Ship Name: Akabo
Search Ship Database: View the 'Akabo' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Elder Dempster Lines Ltd
Official Number: 115268

Occupation:- Clerk

Calabar (also referred to as 'Canaan City')[1] is a city in Cross River State, coastal southeastern Nigeria.


Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 17:10

Well you seem to confirm that the info I have found is the correct person. Sister Mrs L Hundle should be Lottie Hindle.

John

John Report 1 Sep 2013 17:00

WOW. Thank you so much, you have both been a great help.
No Edwin did not go over with his sister, he went on my wifes Grandfathers passport Lemuel William Hampson in 1920, Lemuel having died in 1917. Edwin Wood married Gertrude Hampson widow of Lemuel in 1919 Sheffield. It said on the marriage lines that he was a Secretary to a Limited Company and an Army pensioner. I have looked in the Army records and found an Edwin Wood , with a father Thomas born Salford Lancs, his occupation being a Clerk and West Africa mentioned, which will be correct that Edwin Wood did go to Africa because we have a photo of him with one of the native boys outside a hut. So yes this is the Edwin Wood. Then I found another Edwin Wood living in Burnley in 1911 and his occupation states Secretary to a Limited Company !!!! and the same age so I wonder, surely he could not have been in 2 places at once. I just wondered when he may have died in Canada. On the official document on arrival to Canada for Lemuel William Hampson he states he was going to live with his sister Mrs L Hundle in Toronto. Can any one shed any more light on this problem I have

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 16:52

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 about Lonie Hindle
Name: Lonie Hindle
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birth Place: Salford, England
Age: 42
Date of Arrival: 26 Jul 1920
Ship Name: Canada

Object in coming to Canada:- To join husband

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 16:09

Passage was paid for by her daughter:-

Mrs.L.Hindle, 62 Robina Ave, Oakwood Road, Toronto, Ontario (probably Lottie)

name and address of nearest relative in country from which travelled:-
Daughter- Mrs Day, Ellen,, 17 ?artin Street, Sudley, Manchester


1901 England Census about Edwin Wood
Name: Edwin Wood
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: Burnley St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: Burnley
Sub-registration District: East Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 101
Piece: 3867
Folio: 64
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Wood 20
Thomas Wood 18
Annie Wood 15
Emma Wood 13
Sarah E Wood 10
Ellen Wood 8
xxxx Lottie Hendle 22
xxxx Thomas Hindle 26


Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 about Thomas Hindle
Name: Thomas Hindle
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Birth Place: Burnley, Lancashire
Age: 45
Date of Arrival: May 1920
Ship Name: Melita

Address given on record is 14 Robina Avenue, off Oakwood Avenue, Toronto, Ontario, Canada

So does look to be correct family, just wondering if Edwin went over with his sister and brother in law?

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 15:58

1911 England Census about Edwin Wood
Name: Edwin Wood
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 55 Enbridge St Salford
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Book Keeper
Registration District: Salford
Registration District Number: 465
Sub-registration District: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 24068
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wood 54
Eliza Dorothy Wood 55
Edwin Wood 30
Emma Wood 23
Sarah Eva Wood 20
Ellen Wood 18
Annie Downs 25
Ashby Vincent Downs 24
xxx Thomas Hindle 36 (see passenger list below)
Dorothy Mary Wood 8

1911 show mother as Eliza Dorothy Wood and there is a record for her going to Canada:-

Eliza Dorothy Wood
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Eliza Dorothy Wood
Name: Eliza Dorothy Wood
Gender: Female
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 1 Jun 1929
Vessel: Laurentic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Laurentic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14753

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 15:49

If 1891 census is correct, then this could be relevant?

Edwin Woods, "Ontario Deaths,1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947"
Nom: Edwin Woods
Type d'événement: Death
Date de l'événement: 30 Oct 1920
Lieu de l'événement: Toronto, York, Ontario
Sexe: Male
Âge: 39
Date de naissance:
Lieu de naissance: England
Année de naissance (estimée): 1881
Date de sépulture: 02 Nov 1920
Lieu de sépulture:
Nom du père: Thos. Woods
Nom de la mère: Eliza Jordon
Nom du conjoint:
ID de référence: yr 1920 cn 8111
Numéro de film: 1863282
Numéro de dossier numérique: 4171035
Numéro de l'image: 1292

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 15:47

Is this him?

1891 England Census about Edwin Wood
Name: Edwin Wood
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Wood
Mother's Name: Eliza Wood
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: Burnley
Sub-registration District: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3360
Folio: 42
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wood 34
Eliza Wood 35
Lottie Wood 12
Edwin Wood 10
Annie Wood 5
Emma Wood 3
Sarah Eva Wood 0

Ed

Ed Report 1 Sep 2013 15:43

Where did Edwin Wood live in Canada?

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 15:42

What was Edwin's parents names?