Hello, can anyone help please.
I have been having a huge problem finding the ancestors of my 2 x great grandmother Elizabeth Hansford who I originally thought was descended from the ‘Dorset’ Hansfords.
Although she was born in Bristol (about 1830 and her younger brother James in Bath about 1835) their parents, also James and Elizabeth, were recorded in the 1851 Bristol census as being born in Devon. It took a long time to find this as their surname was transcribed as 'Ansford' and in the 1841 Bristol census as 'Hansar'! But they were definitely originally from Devon.
By the 1861 Bristol census my 2 x great grandmother Elizabeth Hansford was married to Edward Thompson and a widowed James Hansford was living with them as a lodger. I am therefore reasonably certain he was Elizabeth’s father especially as his birth county was shown as Devon. This time it also showed the place as 'Dulmistock' but I think this could be 'Culmstock'.
The only parish record I have found that may be linked to them is the possible baptism of Elizabeth in Bath:
Church, Widcombe-St Thomas a Becket, Bath Baptism Date, 04 Nov 1832 Forename, Elizabeth Sex, F Father Forename, James Mother Forename, Elizabeth Father Surname, HANSFORD Abode, Holloway Father Occupation, Labourer
I have also been unable to find Elizabeth’s brother James in any census after 1851.
If anyone can offer any help or advice I would be very grateful as I've been having no luck with the parish records online with when or where James and Elizabeth married or James’ baptism records in Devon. (I can’t believe I’m the only person looking for this branch of Devon Hansfords!)
Kind regards Sue
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possible marriage for James?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about James Hansford Name: James Hansford Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1878 Registration District: Bath Inferred County: Somerset Volume Number: 5c Page Number: 897 Records on Page: Name Thomas Cockrem Sarah Asway James Hansford Elizabeth Ann Nowell
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Maybe?
1861 England Census about James Hansford Name: James Hansford Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Hansford Gender: Male Where born: Minsgrone, Somerset, England [Charlton Musgrove, Somerset, England] Civil Parish: Great Elm County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View Image Registration District: Frome Sub-registration District: Kilmersdon ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 34 Piece: 1657 Folio: 80 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age James Hansford 27 Emily Hansford 27 Eliza Ann Hansford 6 Elizabeth Hansford 4 Emma Hansford 2
Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%) Hansford James Stoke Damerel 5b 599 Luckham Thomas Stoke Damerel 5b 599 Pike Emily Stoke Damerel 5b 599 Seadgwell Grace Stoke Damerel 5b 599
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Just in case it is correct:-
1871 England Census about James Hansford Name: James Hansford Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Hansford Gender: Male Where born: Charlton Musgrove, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Buckland Denham Town: Buckland Denham County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration District: Frome Sub-registration District: Kilmersdon ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household Schedule Number: 3 Piece: 2437 Folio: 27 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age James Hansford 38 Emily Hansford 38 Emma Hansford 10 Daniel Hansford 8 Emily Hansford 6 James L Hansford 4 Mary Ann Hansford 9 Months Silas Lllett 20
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NO!
ancestry links this 1851 census to above James:-
1851 England Census about James Hansford Name: James Hansford Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Son Parent's Name: Ruth Hansford Gender: M (Male) Where born: Charlton Musgrove, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Charlton Musgrove Ecclesiastical parish: Barrow County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View Image Registration District: Wincanton Sub-registration District: Castle Cary ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 74 Piece: 1931 Folio: 476 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Ruth Hansford 60 Daniel Hansford 34 James Hansford 18 George Hansford 15 Sarah Hansford 11
.......................so doesn't look to be your man,sorry!
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Thank you both, yes could be possible, although the place of birth Charlton Musgrove in the 1861 census doesn't fit with Bath in the earlier Bristol censuses.
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Yes I agree, it's probably not James!
It's really frustrating not being able to find the Devon connection for James & Elizabeth!
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