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christine
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29 Aug 2013 16:44 |
Hi community can u help Graham stuart Williams b 1900 1930 ish wales he married betty morris in Birmingham about 1948 they had a son trevor in 1949 Birmingham
I am unable to find graham stuart williams but I am told he went to school in a place called grosmont, betty,s Morris's parents were most likely Beatrice and author morris Birmingham I hope u can help on this thanks chris
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AnnCardiff
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29 Aug 2013 16:57 |
Grosmont is Monmouthshire way
Are you sure of those dates? 1900 - 1930 ish?
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Gee
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29 Aug 2013 17:04 |
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name:Graham S Williams
Spouse Surname:Betty J Morris
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1948
Registration District:Birmingham
Inferred County:Warwickshire
Volume Number:9c Page Number:699
Do you have any other details please?
Edit: The marriage certificate will give you their ages and fathers names (if they knew them)
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Gee
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29 Aug 2013 17:06 |
What about this birth?
Births Sep 1927 --------------------------------------------------- Williams Graham S Prosser Abergavenny 11a 72
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29 Aug 2013 17:14 |
This looks like Betty' birth
Births Jun 1927 -------------------------------------------------------- Morris Betty J Coney Birmingham N. 6d 964
There is a marriage for Arthur J & Beatrice, 1914, check here
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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Gee
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29 Aug 2013 17:48 |
I 'think' this is Betty' father but you need the marriage certificate for her to be sure
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Arthur James Morris of: The Boot Inn, Lapworth
Probate Date:2 Aug 1955
Death Date:5 Apr 1955: The General Hospital, Birmingham
Death Place:Warwickshire, England Registry:Birmingham, England
Probate to: Joan Burn, wife of Leslie Burn, £4116 2s 1d
Possible Joan
Marriages Mar 1947 -------------------------------- Burn Leslie A Morris Solihull 9c 1716 Morris Joan A Burn Solihull 9c 1716
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29 Aug 2013 19:24 |
Thinking out of the box
Their are only 3 births listed on freebmd between 1900 and 1930 for a Graham S Williams
Births Sep 1917 Williams Graham S Lynes Aston 6d 628
Aston is in the county of Warwickshire as is the Birmingham marriage
Births Sep 1925 Williams Graham S Sherwood Llanelly 11a 2151
Llanelly spans the boundaries of Carmarthenshire and Glamorgan
Births Sep 1927 Williams Graham S Prosser Abergavenny 11a 72
Abergavenny spans the boundaries of the counties of Herefordshire and Monmouthshire
The most likely are the 1927 and the 1917 births so looking for a death could shed some light on which one your man is,
Their are 2 deaths for a Graham stuart Williams on ancestry one in 1996 Worcestershire and the other 1970 Cheshire worth a look but I don't have a sub to ancestry so cannot see ages or DOB
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30 Aug 2013 09:01 |
For factual info about the man, buy the marriage cert.......speculating can easily lead you along entriely the wrong path
And put freebmd in your favourites...................to use to look for info
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
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ErikaH
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30 Aug 2013 09:03 |
Death
Name: WILLIAMS, Graham Stuart Registration district: West Cheshire County: Cheshire Year of registration: 1970 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Date of Birth:9 July 1912 Volume no: 10A Page no: 1753
Death
Name: WILLIAMS, Graham Stuart Registration district: Redditch County: Worcestershire Year of registration: 1996 Month of registration: March Date of Birth:7 July 1927 District no: 5221A Reg no: 3A Ent no: 004 DOR: 396
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ErikaH
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30 Aug 2013 09:07 |
If the man died before 1969, only the initial of his second name will be recorded
You really can't progress this with any degree of certainty without investing in the marriage cert...............
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christine
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2 Sep 2013 15:06 |
hi community I am still working on the info received thank you
graham stuart Williams b abbergavenney 1927, mother prosser I know he had three brothers Ronald, Douglas, and Brian, but I cannot find a marriage for a Williams and a prosser, there is one for 1902 in abergavenney but the marriage year is far too early given the children were not born until the mid 1920's any further info would be a great help thanks once again
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ErikaH
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2 Sep 2013 15:52 |
There were earlier births - did you miss them?
Births Jun 1912 (>99%) Williams Allen J Prosser Abergavenny 11a 97 Williams Daisy J Prosser Abergavenny 11a 78 Births Sep 1914 (>99%) Williams William Prosser Abergavenny 11a 98
Births Sep 1927 (>99%) Williams Graham S Prosser Abergavenny 11a 72 Births Dec 1928 (>99%) Williams Douglas A Prosser Abergavenny 11a 53
If you want facts..........buy certs.
The 1902 marriage could EASILY be right..................alternatively, the mother of Graham S could have been married before.
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