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Hi community can u help
Graham stuart Williams b 1900 1930 ish wales he married betty morris in Birmingham about 1948
they had a son trevor in 1949 Birmingham

I am unable to find graham stuart williams but I am told he went to school in a place called grosmont, betty,s Morris's parents were most likely Beatrice and author morris Birmingham
I hope u can help on this thanks chris

Grosmont is Monmouthshire way

Are you sure of those dates? 1900 - 1930 ish?

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005


Name:Graham S Williams

Spouse Surname:Betty J Morris

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1948

Registration District:Birmingham

Inferred County:Warwickshire

Volume Number:9c
Page Number:699



Do you have any other details please?

Edit: The marriage certificate will give you their ages and fathers names (if they knew them)

What about this birth?


Births Sep 1927
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Williams Graham S Prosser Abergavenny 11a 72

This looks like Betty' birth


Births Jun 1927
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Morris Betty J Coney Birmingham N. 6d 964



There is a marriage for Arthur J & Beatrice, 1914, check here


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

I 'think' this is Betty' father but you need the marriage certificate for her to be sure



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name:Arthur James Morris of: The Boot Inn, Lapworth

Probate Date:2 Aug 1955

Death Date:5 Apr 1955: The General Hospital, Birmingham

Death Place:Warwickshire, England
Registry:Birmingham, England


Probate to: Joan Burn, wife of Leslie Burn, £4116 2s 1d



Possible Joan



Marriages Mar 1947
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Burn Leslie A Morris Solihull 9c 1716
Morris Joan A Burn Solihull 9c 1716

Thinking out of the box

Their are only 3 births listed on freebmd between 1900 and 1930 for a Graham S Williams


Births Sep 1917
Williams Graham S Lynes Aston 6d 628

Aston is in the county of Warwickshire as is the Birmingham marriage

Births Sep 1925
Williams Graham S Sherwood Llanelly 11a 2151

Llanelly spans the boundaries of Carmarthenshire and Glamorgan

Births Sep 1927
Williams Graham S Prosser Abergavenny 11a 72

Abergavenny spans the boundaries of the counties of Herefordshire and Monmouthshire

The most likely are the 1927 and the 1917 births so looking for a death could shed some light on which one your man is,

Their are 2 deaths for a Graham stuart Williams on ancestry one in 1996 Worcestershire and the other 1970 Cheshire worth a look but I don't have a sub to ancestry so cannot see ages or DOB

Roy

For factual info about the man, buy the marriage cert.......speculating can easily lead you along entriely the wrong path

And put freebmd in your favourites...................to use to look for info

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Death

Name: WILLIAMS, Graham Stuart
Registration district: West Cheshire
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1970
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:9 July 1912
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 1753


Death

Name: WILLIAMS, Graham Stuart
Registration district: Redditch
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1996
Month of registration: March
Date of Birth:7 July 1927
District no: 5221A
Reg no: 3A
Ent no: 004
DOR: 396

If the man died before 1969, only the initial of his second name will be recorded

You really can't progress this with any degree of certainty without investing in the marriage cert...............

hi community I am still working on the info received thank you

graham stuart Williams b abbergavenney 1927, mother prosser I know he had three brothers Ronald, Douglas, and Brian, but I cannot find a marriage for a Williams and a prosser, there is one for 1902 in abergavenney but the marriage year is far too early given the children were not born until the mid 1920's any further info would be a great help thanks once again

There were earlier births - did you miss them?



Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Williams Allen J Prosser Abergavenny 11a 97
Williams Daisy J Prosser Abergavenny 11a 78
Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Williams William Prosser Abergavenny 11a 98

Births Sep 1927 (>99%)
Williams Graham S Prosser Abergavenny 11a 72
Births Dec 1928 (>99%)
Williams Douglas A Prosser Abergavenny 11a 53

If you want facts..........buy certs.

The 1902 marriage could EASILY be right..................alternatively, the mother of Graham S could have been married before.