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26 Aug 2013 17:36 |
An Ancestry tree has Hannah Shepherd's (nee Nuttall) death 1864 and a marriage of john to Anne Bates 1867 Sheffield.
It also shows John and Harriet's children as Alfred Bright Gamble 1820 - ?, John Gambles 1824-1879, Caroline Gambles 1826-1890, Ann Lee Gamble 1827 - ? and Selina Matilda Gambles 1833 - 1914. All christened at Sheffield parish Church, Church Street. No proof of anything but what is on census
Louisa doesn't get a mention
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26 Aug 2013 17:31 |
Deaths Jun 1914 (>99%) Shepherd Louisa 62 Sheffield 9c 795
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26 Aug 2013 17:29 |
Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%) Shepherd John Henry 54 Sheffield 9c 319
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26 Aug 2013 17:26 |
1911 England Census about Louisa Shepherd Name: Louisa Shepherd Age in 1911: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street Address: 3 H 1 Ct Steelhouse Lane Sheffield Marital Status: Widowed Registration District: Sheffield Registration District Number: 510 Sub-registration District: North Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 27869 Household Members: Name Age Louisa Shepherd 60 Ernest Shepherd 25 Ada Shepherd 19
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ArgyllGran
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26 Aug 2013 17:21 |
In 1901 he's called George!
1901 England Census about Alice Shepherd Name: Alice Shepherd Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George H Shepherd - 1850, Doncaster Mother's Name: Louisa Shepherd Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: Sheffield St Peter and St Paul County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Sheffield Sub-registration District: North Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 230 Piece: 4363 Folio: 55 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age George H Shepherd 51 Louisa Shepherd 48 Charles Shepherd 17 Ernest Shepherd 15 Alice Shepherd 12 Ada Shepherd 9
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26 Aug 2013 17:20 |
hi stuart i dont have a wedding certificate at the moment for john and louise.i think i might have to save and send for one thanks
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26 Aug 2013 17:18 |
1891 England Census about John Hy Shepherd Name: John Hy Shepherd Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Lousia Shepherd Gender: Male Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: Holliscroft County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Sheffield Sub-registration District: North Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3818 Folio: 58 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age John Hy Shepherd 40 Lousia Shepherd 38 Herbert Shepherd 19 Mary Ann Shepherd 16 John Thos Shepherd 14 George Shepherd 11 Charles Shepherd 7 Ernest Shepherd 5 Alice Shepherd 2
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26 Aug 2013 17:12 |
1881
Name: John Hy. Shepherd Age:30 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1851 Relationship to Head:Head Spouse:Lousia Shepherd born:Sheffield Gender:Male Where born:Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country:England
Street Address: 2 CT 6 Ball St Marital Status:Married Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation:Edge Tool Striker
Registration District:Sheffield
Sub-registration District:North Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece:4645 Folio:132 Page Number:22 Household Members: NameAge
John Hy. Shepherd 30 Lousia Shepherd 28 Herbert Shepherd 9 Mary Ann Shepherd 6 John Thomas Shepherd 4 George Shepherd 1 John Thomas England 25 Roy
The 1891 also has him born Doncaster so wonder if his birth was registered? or did he inherit the middle name Henry? possibly when baptised
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26 Aug 2013 17:09 |
1871 census transcription details for: Scotland Street Court, Sheffield
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 4680 Folio: 135 Page: 14 Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: Sheffield, North Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 15 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield Address: Scotland Street Court, Sheffield County: Yorkshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born SHEPHERD, John Head M 21 1850 Yorkshire SHEPHERD, Lousia Wife F 18 1853 Yorkshire GAMBLES, John Boarder M 49 1822 Yorkshire GAMBLES, Ann Wife F 38 1833 Nottinghamshire GAMBLES, Alfred Son M 15 1856 Yorkshire GAMBLES, Frederick Son M 14 1857 Yorkshire GAMBLES, Sarah Ann Daughter F 3 1868 Yorkshire
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26 Aug 2013 17:04 |
John and Hannah Gamble are married in 1850, but the 1861 census shows the older child as born 1854/5. Could Louisa be theirs?
Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close Name: GAMBLE, John Registration district: Sheffield County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1850 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 22 Page no: 660 MarriageFinder: John Gamble married one of the following people:
ALLEN, Martha NUTHALL, Hannah <<<<<<<< OATES, Emma FLINT, Martha MITCHELL, Isaac OXLEY, Henry FOX, James
1861 census transcription details for: 7 Yard, Orchard Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 3497 Folio: 43 Page: 30 Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: 5 Brightside Parish: Brightside Bierlow Enum. District: 18 Ecclesiastical District: Pitsmoor City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield Address: 7 Yard, Orchard Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born NUTTELL, Thomas Head Married M 55 1806 Woodsawyer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NUTTELL, Ann Wife Married F 56 1805 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NUTTELL, John Son Widower M 31 1830 Table Blade Grinder Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NUTTELL, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842 Varnisher Sheffield, Yorkshire GAMBLES, John Son In Law Married M 37 1824 Labourer Sheffield, Yorkshire GAMBLES, Hannah Daughter Married F 33 1828 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire GAMBLES, Alfred Grandson M 6 1855 ScholarSheffield, Yorkshire GAMBLES, Frederick Grandson M 5 1856 Scholar Rotherham, Yorkshire SMITH, Ann Boarder F 36 1825
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ArgyllGran
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26 Aug 2013 16:58 |
????
Births Jun 1848 (>99%) SHEPHERD John Henry York 23 779
EDIT: No, probably not - there are census records for (presumably) this one with parents1851 and after.
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26 Aug 2013 16:56 |
?? Louisa's birth Reg
Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: GAMBLES, Louisa Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1852 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 9C Page no: 208
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26 Aug 2013 16:55 |
Gamble / Gambles seem interchangeable.
Births Sep 1852 (>99%) GAMBLES Louisa Ecclesall Bierlow 9c 208
Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%) Gambles Selina Matilda Sheffield 9c 535 Mallinson Henry Sheffield 9c 535
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26 Aug 2013 16:50 |
1841 census transcription details for: Granville Street, Sheffield, Sheffield Park
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1336 Book/Folio: 1/35 Page: 26 Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: Sheffield Park Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield Address: Granville Street, Sheffield, Sheffield Park County: Yorkshire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born GAMBLES, John M 40 1801 Yorkshire <<<<<< Fender Smith GAMBLES, Harriet F 40 1801 Yorkshire GAMBLES, John M 15 1826 Yorkshire GAMBLES, Caroline F 15 1826 Yorkshire GAMBLES, Selina F 5 1836 Yorkshire HOLDING, Thomas M 45 1796 Yorkshire HOLDING, Cathrine F 45 1796 Yorkshire HOLDING, Ann F 5 1836
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Porkie_Pie
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26 Aug 2013 16:49 |
If born Doncaster then this is a more likely birth for him
Births Dec 1849 SHEPHERD John Doncaster 22 80
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26 Aug 2013 16:48 |
??1851 census transcription details for: 28, Union Lane, Sheffield
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2340 Folio: 238 Page: 57 Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: Sheffield Parish: Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District: St Pauls City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield Address: 28, Union Lane, Sheffield County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born GAMBLE, John Head Married M 50 1801 Finder Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire GAMBLE, Harriot Wife Married F 50 1801 Sheffield, Yorkshire GAMBLE, John Son Married M 26 1825 Ornamental Brouser Sheffield, Yorkshire GAMBLE, Hannah Wife Married F 22 1829 Londar, Nottinghamshire GAMBLE, Celina Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Cabinet Case Liner Sheffield, Yorkshire FARR, Ruben Lodger Unmarried M 32 1819 PainterRotherham, Yorkshire
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26 Aug 2013 16:47 |
How have you got back to John and Louisa. If you know they married, do you have the marriage certificate? If so, what are the details on it ?
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26 Aug 2013 16:45 |
Nurse child simply means the child was being looked after by someone other than a parent sometimes because the birth parents were unable to due to circumstances beyond their control such as mother not well enough after child birth and dad having to work, Often taken in by extended family or friends and not always for financial gain
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26 Aug 2013 16:42 |
Louisa illegitimate daughter of Selina?
1861 England Census about Louisa Gamble Name: Louisa Gamble Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: Porter County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Sheffield Sub-registration District: South Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 244 Piece: 3488 Folio: 30 Page Number: 53 Household Members: Name Age Harriet Gamble 62 Selina Mallinson 28 - married daughter Louisa Gamble 8 - grand-daughter Herbert Mallinson 6 - grandson Rose Mallinson 4 - grand-daughter Alfred Best 30 - lodger
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26 Aug 2013 16:38 |
If this is the marriage it gives John a middle name which might help in finding other records. it also gives Louisa as GambleS which may or may not be correct
Civil Registration event: Marriage
MarriageFinder: John Henry Shepherd married Louisa Gambles Name: SHEPHERD, John Henry Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1870 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 9C Page no: 259
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