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Need to find a mother to carry on Lowther line

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2013 23:08

If Brian knew that............he wouldn't have asked in the first place.

Edit:.....Reggie has deleted her comment.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2013 21:43

English birth certificates give the Mothers maiden name.

The best place to purchase certificates is online here........

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Brian

Brian Report 21 Aug 2013 21:40

Thanks everyone for their help but have to go now but if anyone could verify if the mothers name is on birth certifcate that would be great, once again thanks

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Aug 2013 21:13

Name: James Leo Lowther
Birth Year: abt 1898
Parish: Middleton, St Mary
Burial Date: 3 Mar 1955
Burial Age: 57

Brian

Brian Report 21 Aug 2013 20:22

If I get the birth certificate will this solve my problem of getting James L S Lowther's mother

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2013 20:11

Yes, it is a bit of a mess Brian.

Brian

Brian Report 21 Aug 2013 19:56

I believe the 1911 census is correct although if I remember correct all the spellig was quite bad.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2013 19:48


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: LOWTHER, Rachell
Address: 10 East St Chopwell Ebchester

LOWTHER, James Head Married M 48 1863 Coal Miner Hewer Carlisle VIEW
LOWTHER, Rachall Wife Married28 years F 44 1867 Carlisle VIEW
LOWTHER, Rachell Daughter F 11 1900 Carlisle VIEW
LOWTHER, Agnes Daughter F 7 1904 Carlisle VIEW
LOWTHER, Albert Son M 9 1902 Carlisle VIEW
LOWTHER, Lena Son M 14 1897 Carlisle VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 30527
Reference: RG14PN30527 RG78PN1750 RD557 SD4 ED20 SN281
Registration District: Gateshead
Sub District: Winlaton
Enumeration District: 20
Parish: Chopwell
Address: 10 East St Chopwell Ebchester
County: Durham


Lena......must be Leo.

Brian

Brian Report 21 Aug 2013 19:44

I live in Scotland and not sure about English certificates can everyone verify if the birth certificate is the one to purchase to get mothers name

Choccy

Choccy Report 21 Aug 2013 19:39



You will need to purchase the birth certificate to confirm mother's name.


Brian

Brian Report 21 Aug 2013 19:37

Thanks Choccy, I have the census details need a best guess for mother

Choccy

Choccy Report 21 Aug 2013 19:32



Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
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LOWTHER James Carlisle 10b 666

McConnell Rachel Carlisle 10b 666


1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 4287
Folio: 32
Page: 24
Reg. District: Carlisle
Sub District: St Cuthbert
Parish: Saint Cuthbert Without
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: St Stephen
City/Municipal Borough: Carlisle
Address: Shields Court, Water Street, Saint Cuthbert Without, Carlisle
County: Cumberland


LOWTHER, James Head Married M 29 1862 Labourer
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Rachel Wife Married F 26 1865
Newcastle
LOWTHER, Margaret J Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, John J Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, William Son M 3 1888
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Thomas Son M 1 1890
Carlisle, Cumberland


1901

RG number: RG13
Piece: 4865
Folio: 176
Page: 11
Reg. District: Carlisle
Sub District: St Cuthbert
Parish: Carlisle Botchergate
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: St Stephen
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Margaret Street, Carlisle Botchergate, Carlisle
County: Cumberland


LOWTHER, James Head Married M 39 1862 Bricklayers Labourer
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Rachel Wife Married F 37 1864
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, John Son Single M 14 1887 Ironmongers Labourer
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, William Son Single M 13 1888 Lithographers Labourer
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Thomas Son Single M 11 1890
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Joseph Son Single M 5 1896
Carlisle, Cumberland
>>>>>LOWTHER, Leo Son Single M 3 1898
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Rachel Daughter Single F 1 1900
Carlisle, Cumberland


Astra

Astra Report 21 Aug 2013 19:29

1901 census transcription details for: 11, Margaret Street, Carlisle Botchergate, Carlisle

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4865
Folio: 176
Page: 11
Reg. District: Carlisle
Sub District: St Cuthbert
Parish: Carlisle Botchergate
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: St Stephen
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Margaret Street, Carlisle Botchergate, Carlisle
County: Cumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LOWTHER, James Head Married M 39 1862 Bricklayers Labourer
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Rachel Wife Married F 37 1864
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, John Son Single M 14 1887 Ironmongers Labourer
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, William Son Single M 13 1888 Lithographers Labourer
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Thomas Son Single M 11 1890
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Joseph Son Single M 5 1896
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Leo Son Single M 3 1898
Carlisle, Cumberland
LOWTHER, Rachel Daughter Single F 1 1900
Carlisle, Cumberland

Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)

LOWTHER James Carlisle 10b 666
McConnell Rachel Carlisle 10b 666

safc

safc Report 21 Aug 2013 19:28

????

Leo Lowther, "England and Wales Census, 1901"
Name: Leo Lowther
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender:
Age: 3
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Carlisle, Cumberland
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Carlisle
Sub-District: St Cuthbert
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephen
Civil Parish: Carlisle Botchergate
District/Parish/County: Cumberland

Choccy

Choccy Report 21 Aug 2013 19:23


??

Births Mar 1898

LOWTHER James Leo Carlisle 10b 521


+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Aug 2013 19:20

Post deleted cos me geography is rubbish :-(

Brian

Brian Report 21 Aug 2013 19:09

I am looking for the mother of a James Leo Septimus Lowther who was born in in Carlisle in 1898 he died in 1955 Leeds he married Rose Lillian Wood 1918 in Burmantofts, St Agnes and St Stephen, Yorkshire,
Looking at the marriage certificate James L S Lowther's father was James Lowther occupation Carter. I need to find James L S Lowther's mother in order to carry on the line. I believe the mother is a Rachel McConnell born Carlisle but not sure. There also is a James Leonard Lowther from west ham London who has nothing to do with this family.
Clarence Lowther son of James L S Lowther and Rose Lillian Wood is still living and is sure his Grandfather was born in Carlisle.