Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Birth Certificates

ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

Debra

Debra Report 20 Aug 2013 19:33


Births Jun 1925 (>99%)
Atkinson Audrey L Hudson Sculcoates 9d 197
Hudson Audrey L Hudson Sculcoates 9d 197

Both these births were registered in Jun Qtr 1925. I have been looking for an adopted child who was brought up as Audrey Atkinson. The family story is that she was born in a home for unmarried mums in Hull.

Is anyone able to advise why these two births would have the same reference.

Thanks
Debra

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 20 Aug 2013 19:39

My guess would be that she was registered in her birth name of Hudson and then as adopted name which shows mmn as Hudson?

I'd purchase one (the Atkinson one???)

Jude

Debra

Debra Report 20 Aug 2013 19:48

Thanks Jude

Debra

Debra Report 20 Aug 2013 19:48

Thanks Jude

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 20 Aug 2013 20:56

Have you looked for a later marriage for a Hudson to a Atkinson? Births registered in this way are usualy when the parents are not married to each other but the father accepted responsibility and gave his permission to have the child registered in his name also,

In that case it doesn't matter which cert you order because their will only be one birth cert

Roy

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 20 Aug 2013 20:59

Roy thought that.... :-)

Penny

Penny Report 20 Aug 2013 21:01

if the name given to the child after she was adopted, it wont be in the birth registers. The name she was given originally would be.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 20 Aug 2013 22:02

Bear in mind that the adoption children act was not introduced until 1926 but as Penny said Adopted people are NOT registered in their adopted name on the birth register

Roy

Debra

Debra Report 21 Aug 2013 06:22

Thank you all for your words of caution.

Regards
Debra

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Aug 2013 07:09

It's more likely that the baby was illegitimate but her father is on the cert so she could use either surname.
Whichever name you use to order the cert it will be just the one cert.

Edit .just see Roy gave the same explanation :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Aug 2013 10:01

If this girl was adopted and 'brought up as Audrey Atkinson', that would not be the name under which her birth was registered.

That would be the name given to her by her adoptive parents

What name did she use when she married.........if she did?

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Debra

Debra Report 21 Aug 2013 12:37

Received this explanation from the GRO office.

If the parents' surnames recorded at the time of registration are not the same, the birth will be recorded in the indexes under both the mother's and the father's surname, which is what we call a dual registration.

There will be only one entry of birth which will record the child's surname given at the time the birth was registered.

Changing a child’s surname
You can only change a child’s surname in their original birth record to correct a spelling mistake.
However, a child can be re-registered in the following circumstances:

to record the natural father's details in the birth record
following the marriage of the natural parents, if they were not married at the time of the birth
In these circumstances, you are able to change the child’s surname to the mother’s or the father’s – or a combination of the two – as long as both parents agree to the change. If the child is 16 years of age or over, his or her written consent must be obtained before the surname can be changed

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 21 Aug 2013 15:52

Well done to Roy! :-)