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21 Aug 2013 14:18 |
Now Arthur. Kensington covers Paddington
Births Jun 1871 (>99%) CRAY Arthur Edward Kensington 1a 39 Births Jun 1872 (>99%)
1881. Mother born France so was so was Anatasia Cray Alice Elizabeth's mother
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image CRAY, John Head Married M 46 1835 Butler Marsh, Wiltshire VIEW CRAY, Selina Wife Married F 42 1839 ? B S, France VIEW CRAY, Lilly Daughter Single F 16 1865 Paddington, Middlesex VIEW CRAY, Humbert H Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Paddington, Middlesex VIEW CRAY, Arthur Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Paddington, Middlesex VIEW CRAY, Alice Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Paddington, Middlesex VIEW Piece: 3 Folio: 65 Page: 23 Registration District: Kensington Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough: Address: 78, Clarendon Street, Paddington County: London, Middlesex
1891 father Johns not there
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image CRAY, John Head Married M 46 1835 Butler Marsh, Wiltshire VIEW CRAY, Selina Wife Married F 42 1839 ? B S, France VIEW CRAY, Lilly Daughter Single F 16 1865 Paddington, Middlesex VIEW CRAY, Humbert H Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Paddington, Middlesex VIEW CRAY, Arthur Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Paddington, Middlesex VIEW CRAY, Alice Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Paddington, Middlesex VIEW Piece: 3 Folio: 65 Page: 23 Registration District: Kensington Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough: Address: 78, Clarendon Street, Paddington County: London, Middlesex
By 1901 he's married to Agnes
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image CRAY, Arthur Head Married M 29 1872 Harness Maker Paddington, London VIEW CRAY, Agnes Wife Married F 29 1872 Marylebone, London VIEW CRAY, Arthur Son Single M 4 1897 Paddington, London VIEW CRAY, Charles Son Single M 3 1898 Paddington, London VIEW CRAY, Alice Daughter Single F 2 1899 Paddington, London VIEW Piece: 9 Folio: 96 Page: 13 Registration District: Paddington Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough: Address: 54, Kensal Road, Paddington County: London
Can't find a marriage for them and can't find them in 1911
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21 Aug 2013 14:02 |
In 1901 he's a retired publisher. I'm assuming it is the same Robert Nicol Christie as in the probate, he is about 21 years older than Alice.
His death
Deaths Sep 1932 (>99%) Christie Robert N 78 St.Albans 3a 787
refine search back to 1901 census search resultsBack to all search results Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image CHRISTIE, Robert N Head Married M 46 1855 Retired Publisher Scotland VIEW CHRISTIE, Jessie A Wife Married F 41 1860 Scotland VIEW MACLAREN, Maggie A Sister-In-Law Single F 30 1871 Scotland VIEW WATKINS, Ivory N Niece F 1 1900 Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire VIEW DRURY, Alice M Servant Single F 20 1881 Domestic Servant Harpenden, Hertfordshire VIEW THRUSSELL, Agnes E Servant Single F 17 1884 Domestic Servant Bendish, Hertfordshire VIEW Piece: 1310 Folio: 92 Page: 44 Registration District: St Albans Civil Parish: Harpenden Urban Municipal Borough: Address: (Ardblair), Milton Road, Harpenden Urban, Harpenden County: Hertfordshire refine search back to 1901 census search resultsBack to all search results © brightsolid online publishing ltd
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21 Aug 2013 13:51 |
This fits and Jessie his wife died 1922 the next year he married Alice Elizabeth Cray. The only thing is that it doesn't tally with the baptism occupation of shoemaker but he dissolved the partnership in the iron founders in 1893
1891 Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image CHRISTIE, Robert N Head Married M 36 1855 Printer Master Scotland VIEW CHRISTIE, Jessie A Wife Married F 31 1860 Scotland VIEW MCLAREN, Maggie A Sister In Law Single F 20 1871 Scotland VIEW MCLAREN, Mary Sister In Law Single F 17 1874 Scotland VIEW WILKINSON, Kate Servant Single F 20 1871 General Servant Luton, Bedfordshire VIEW Piece: 1272 Folio: 157 Page: 17 Registration District: Luton Civil Parish: Luton Municipal Borough: Luton Address: 39, Park Street, Luton County: Bedfordshire
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21 Aug 2013 13:44 |
From the London Gazette
NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership here- tofore subsisting between us the undersigned, James Spiers Aitken and Robert Nicol-Christie, carrying on business as Ironfounders, at' Langley-street, Luton, under the style or firm of J. S. Aitken and Co., has been dissolved, by mutual consent, as and from'the 20th day of May, 1893. All debts due to and-owing by the said late firm will be received and paid by the said James Spiers Aitken.—Dated 1st day of July, 1893. J. S.AITKEN. R. N. CHRISTIE.
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21 Aug 2013 13:39 |
Probate...
Christie Robert Nicol of 40 Clarence Road St Albans Hertfordshire died 23/09/1932 at Bricket House, Brickett Wood, St. Albans. Probate 8th November to Alice Elizabeth Christie widow and Davina Cray Christie, spinster. Effects £15,448.5s 7d
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21 Aug 2013 12:41 |
The address for the above baptisms was 18 Kilburn Park Road Paddington I have tried several times to do a 1911 address search for this on F M P as it says there are 417 results but the sites bombs out before it downloads number 18. Perhaps someone else could try it.
At the time of Madges baptism Robert was a Boot ??ain and a shoemaker at the time of Davinas
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21 Aug 2013 12:17 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Madge Christie Cray Name: Madge Christie Cray Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 21 Aug 1901 Father's Name: Robert Cray Mother's Name: Alice Cray Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Augustine Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Davina Christie Cray Name: Davina Christie Cray Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Apr 1903 Father's Name: Christie Cray Mother's Name: Alice Cray Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Augustine Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers
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valerie
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21 Aug 2013 11:27 |
thank peeps
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20 Aug 2013 21:17 |
Perhaps the mother of all the children on the 1911 census posted above is Alice Elizabeth Cray.
Christie is most likely their father's surname. He could have been already married to someone else, so was unable to marry Alice until his first wife died?
Possible marriage from http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%) Christie Robert N Cray Hampstead 1a 1393 Scan available - click to view Cray Alice E Christie Hampstead 1a 1393
The baptisms of Madge and Davina are on the London Birth & Baptisms on Ancestry, but I can't see the full details.
Edited to add source and change Robina to Davina.
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20 Aug 2013 19:38 |
Name: William Maddocks Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Gender: Age: 17 Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birthplace: Maesteg, Glamorganshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Bridgend Sub-District: Ogmore Ecclesiastical Parish: Garw Valley Civil Parish: Llangeinor District/Parish/County: Glamorganshire
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20 Aug 2013 19:36 |
Name: William H Maddocks Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Gender: Age: 27 Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birthplace: Maesteg, Glamorganshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Bridgend Sub-District: Ogmore Ecclesiastical Parish: Garw Valley Civil Parish: Llangeinor District/Parish/County: Glamorganshire
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20 Aug 2013 19:35 |
Not everyone will be able to see this via your link unless they have Ancestry so here is the 1911 transcript for reference:
1911 census transcription details for: 6 Achilles Road Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN643 RG78PN22 RD8 SD1 ED53 SN201 Reg. District: Hampstead Sub District: Hampstead Parish: Hampstead Enum. District: 53 Address: 6 Achilles Road County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born CRAY, Anastacia Eleanor Baillard Head Widow F 75 1836 France CRAY, Alice Elizabeth Daughter Single F 37 1874 London Paddington CRAY, Gladys Eleanor Christie Granddaughter F 12 1899 London West Hampstead CRAY, Madge Christie Granddaughter F 9 1902 London West Hampstead CRAY, Davina Christie Granddaughter F 8 1903 London West Hampstead CRAY, Robina Christie Granddaughter F 5 1906 London West Hampstead CRAY, Alice Christie Granddaughter F 3 1908 London West Hampstead CRAY, Marie Christie Granddaughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 London West Hampstead DAVEY, Rose Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant London Millwall
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20 Aug 2013 19:24 |
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Name: Margaret Louisa Christie Age (Original): 2 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1879 Birthplace: Wales Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Marital Status: Single Occupation: Address: Ynysangharad St Event Place: Eglwysilan, Glamorganshire, Wales Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1342274 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 5293 / 112 Page Number: 62 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Alfred Morris Christie M 27 London, Middlesex, Wales Wife Ann Christie F 25 Wales Daughter Blanch Eliz Christie F 6 Wales Son Arthur Henry Christie M 4 Wales Daughter Margaret Louisa Christie F 2 Wales
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20 Aug 2013 19:21 |
Name: Margaret Cray Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Gender: Female Age: 31 Birthplace: Machon Wales, Monmouthshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Kensington Sub-District: Kensington Central Parish: Kensington County: London
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20 Aug 2013 19:17 |
Madge Christie Cray England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: London West Hampstead, London census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England Gladys Eleanor Christie Cray England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: London West Hampstead, London census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England Davina Christie Cray England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: London West Hampstead, London census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England Robina Christie Cray England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: London West Hampstead, London census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England Alice Christie Cray England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: London West Hampstead, London census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England Marie Christie Cray England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: London West Hampstead, London census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England
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valerie
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20 Aug 2013 19:08 |
oh ps this is the census image
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_00643_0403_03/1700188?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3d1911england%26new%3d1%26gsfn%3d%2bAnestasia%2bEleanor%2bBaillard%2b%26gsln%3dcray%26rank%3d1%26gss%3dangs-d%26pcat%3d1911UKI%26fh%3d0%26h%3d1700188%26recoff%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord
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20 Aug 2013 18:56 |
hi peeps alot of you good people have done some wonderful stuf for me so far and I really do appreciate all you do . right bare with me here lol I have a a birth cert hannah maria cray born sept 1886 , now i think i have found here parents and family in the cencuses this info i have , but mention no names MEL lol this loverly person sent me a census of her possible parent all the date tie in on it so hmmmm thats the cat amonst the pidgoens now . my ? is on the census there are two brothers henry and arthur cray i know all about henry but is there a marrage for arthur born 1872 in paddington , the eldest daugher on the census is age 12 grandaughter she is madge christe cray born 1899 west hampsted london so im trying to find out if arhtur married a christe i think ? hope thats not to confusing as this is the only way i can exspane it sorry val xx
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