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Arthur cray born 1872 marrage ?

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Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Aug 2013 14:18

Now Arthur. Kensington covers Paddington


Births Jun 1871 (>99%)
CRAY Arthur Edward Kensington 1a 39
Births Jun 1872 (>99%)


1881. Mother born France so was so was Anatasia Cray Alice Elizabeth's mother


Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CRAY, John Head Married M 46 1835 Butler
Marsh, Wiltshire VIEW
CRAY, Selina Wife Married F 42 1839
? B S, France VIEW
CRAY, Lilly Daughter Single F 16 1865
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW
CRAY, Humbert H Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW
CRAY, Arthur Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW
CRAY, Alice Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW Piece: 3 Folio: 65 Page: 23 Registration District: Kensington Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough: Address: 78, Clarendon Street, Paddington County: London, Middlesex

1891 father Johns not there


Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CRAY, John Head Married M 46 1835 Butler
Marsh, Wiltshire VIEW
CRAY, Selina Wife Married F 42 1839
? B S, France VIEW
CRAY, Lilly Daughter Single F 16 1865
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW
CRAY, Humbert H Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW
CRAY, Arthur Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW
CRAY, Alice Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW Piece: 3 Folio: 65 Page: 23 Registration District: Kensington Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough: Address: 78, Clarendon Street, Paddington County: London, Middlesex

By 1901 he's married to Agnes



Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CRAY, Arthur Head Married M 29 1872 Harness Maker
Paddington, London VIEW
CRAY, Agnes Wife Married F 29 1872
Marylebone, London VIEW
CRAY, Arthur Son Single M 4 1897
Paddington, London VIEW
CRAY, Charles Son Single M 3 1898
Paddington, London VIEW
CRAY, Alice Daughter Single F 2 1899
Paddington, London VIEW Piece: 9 Folio: 96 Page: 13 Registration District: Paddington Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough: Address: 54, Kensal Road, Paddington County: London

Can't find a marriage for them and can't find them in 1911

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Aug 2013 14:02

In 1901 he's a retired publisher. I'm assuming it is the same Robert Nicol Christie as in the probate, he is about 21 years older than Alice.

His death

Deaths Sep 1932 (>99%)
Christie Robert N 78 St.Albans 3a 787



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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CHRISTIE, Robert N Head Married M 46 1855 Retired Publisher
Scotland VIEW
CHRISTIE, Jessie A Wife Married F 41 1860
Scotland VIEW
MACLAREN, Maggie A Sister-In-Law Single F 30 1871
Scotland VIEW
WATKINS, Ivory N Niece F 1 1900
Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire VIEW
DRURY, Alice M Servant Single F 20 1881 Domestic Servant
Harpenden, Hertfordshire VIEW
THRUSSELL, Agnes E Servant Single F 17 1884 Domestic Servant
Bendish, Hertfordshire VIEW Piece: 1310 Folio: 92 Page: 44 Registration District: St Albans Civil Parish: Harpenden Urban Municipal Borough: Address: (Ardblair), Milton Road, Harpenden Urban, Harpenden County: Hertfordshire refine search back to 1901 census search resultsBack to all search results
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Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Aug 2013 13:51

This fits and Jessie his wife died 1922 the next year he married Alice Elizabeth Cray. The only thing is that it doesn't tally with the baptism occupation of shoemaker but he dissolved the partnership in the iron founders in 1893

1891
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CHRISTIE, Robert N Head Married M 36 1855 Printer Master
Scotland VIEW
CHRISTIE, Jessie A Wife Married F 31 1860
Scotland VIEW
MCLAREN, Maggie A Sister In Law Single F 20 1871
Scotland VIEW
MCLAREN, Mary Sister In Law Single F 17 1874
Scotland VIEW
WILKINSON, Kate Servant Single F 20 1871 General Servant
Luton, Bedfordshire VIEW Piece: 1272 Folio: 157 Page: 17 Registration District: Luton Civil Parish: Luton Municipal Borough: Luton Address: 39, Park Street, Luton County: Bedfordshire

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Aug 2013 13:44

From the London Gazette

NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership here- tofore subsisting between us the undersigned, James Spiers Aitken and Robert Nicol-Christie, carrying
on business as Ironfounders, at' Langley-street, Luton, under the style or firm of J. S. Aitken and Co., has been dissolved, by mutual consent, as and from'the 20th day of May, 1893. All debts due to and-owing by the said late firm will be received and paid by the said James Spiers Aitken.—Dated 1st day of July, 1893.
J. S.AITKEN. R. N. CHRISTIE.

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Aug 2013 13:39

Probate...

Christie Robert Nicol of 40 Clarence Road St Albans Hertfordshire died 23/09/1932 at Bricket House, Brickett Wood, St. Albans. Probate 8th November to Alice Elizabeth Christie widow and Davina Cray Christie, spinster. Effects £15,448.5s 7d

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Aug 2013 12:41

The address for the above baptisms was 18 Kilburn Park Road Paddington I have tried several times to do a 1911 address search for this on F M P as it says there are 417 results but the sites bombs out before it downloads number 18. Perhaps someone else could try it.

At the time of Madges baptism Robert was a Boot ??ain and a shoemaker at the time of Davinas

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Aug 2013 12:17

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Madge Christie Cray Name: Madge Christie Cray
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Aug 1901
Father's Name: Robert Cray
Mother's Name: Alice Cray
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Augustine
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Davina Christie Cray Name: Davina Christie Cray
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Apr 1903
Father's Name: Christie Cray
Mother's Name: Alice Cray
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Augustine
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers


valerie

valerie Report 21 Aug 2013 11:27

thank peeps

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 20 Aug 2013 21:17

Perhaps the mother of all the children on the 1911 census posted above is Alice Elizabeth Cray.

Christie is most likely their father's surname. He could have been already married to someone else, so was unable to marry Alice until his first wife died?



Possible marriage from http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%)
Christie Robert N Cray Hampstead 1a 1393 Scan available - click to view
Cray Alice E Christie Hampstead 1a 1393



The baptisms of Madge and Davina are on the London Birth & Baptisms on Ancestry, but I can't see the full details.

Edited to add source and change Robina to Davina.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Aug 2013 19:38

Name: William Maddocks
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender:
Age: 17
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Maesteg, Glamorganshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Bridgend
Sub-District: Ogmore
Ecclesiastical Parish: Garw Valley
Civil Parish: Llangeinor
District/Parish/County: Glamorganshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Aug 2013 19:36

Name: William H Maddocks
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender:
Age: 27
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Maesteg, Glamorganshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Bridgend
Sub-District: Ogmore
Ecclesiastical Parish: Garw Valley
Civil Parish: Llangeinor
District/Parish/County: Glamorganshire

Dea

Dea Report 20 Aug 2013 19:35

Not everyone will be able to see this via your link unless they have Ancestry so here is the 1911 transcript for reference:

1911 census transcription details for: 6 Achilles Road
Print Close

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN643 RG78PN22 RD8 SD1 ED53 SN201
Reg. District: Hampstead
Sub District: Hampstead
Parish: Hampstead
Enum. District: 53
Address: 6 Achilles Road
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CRAY, Anastacia Eleanor Baillard Head Widow F 75 1836 France
CRAY, Alice Elizabeth Daughter Single F 37 1874 London Paddington
CRAY, Gladys Eleanor Christie Granddaughter F 12 1899 London West Hampstead
CRAY, Madge Christie Granddaughter F 9 1902 London West Hampstead
CRAY, Davina Christie Granddaughter F 8 1903 London West Hampstead
CRAY, Robina Christie Granddaughter F 5 1906 London West Hampstead
CRAY, Alice Christie Granddaughter F 3 1908 London West Hampstead
CRAY, Marie Christie Granddaughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 London West Hampstead
DAVEY, Rose Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant London Millwall

Dea x

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Aug 2013 19:24

???????????????

Name: Margaret Louisa Christie
Age (Original): 2
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1879
Birthplace: Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation:
Address: Ynysangharad St
Event Place: Eglwysilan, Glamorganshire, Wales
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342274
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5293 / 112
Page Number: 62
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Alfred Morris Christie M 27 London, Middlesex, Wales
Wife Ann Christie F 25 Wales
Daughter Blanch Eliz Christie F 6 Wales
Son Arthur Henry Christie M 4 Wales
Daughter Margaret Louisa Christie F 2 Wales

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Aug 2013 19:21

Name: Margaret Cray
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 31
Birthplace: Machon Wales, Monmouthshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Kensington
Sub-District: Kensington Central
Parish: Kensington
County: London

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Aug 2013 19:17

Madge Christie Cray
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London West Hampstead, London
census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England

Gladys Eleanor Christie Cray
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London West Hampstead, London
census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England

Davina Christie Cray
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London West Hampstead, London
census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England

Robina Christie Cray
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London West Hampstead, London
census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England

Alice Christie Cray
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London West Hampstead, London
census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England

Marie Christie Cray
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London West Hampstead, London
census: 1911 Hampstead, , London, England

valerie

valerie Report 20 Aug 2013 19:08

oh ps this is the census image

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_00643_0403_03/1700188?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26db%3d1911england%26new%3d1%26gsfn%3d%2bAnestasia%2bEleanor%2bBaillard%2b%26gsln%3dcray%26rank%3d1%26gss%3dangs-d%26pcat%3d1911UKI%26fh%3d0%26h%3d1700188%26recoff%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

valerie

valerie Report 20 Aug 2013 18:56

hi peeps
alot of you good people have done some wonderful stuf for me so far and I really do appreciate all you do .
right bare with me here lol
I have a a birth cert hannah maria cray born sept 1886 , now i think i have found here parents and family in the cencuses this info i have ,
but mention no names MEL lol this loverly person sent me a census of her possible parent all the date tie in on it so hmmmm thats the cat amonst the pidgoens now .
my ? is on the census there are two brothers henry and arthur cray i know all about henry but is there a marrage for arthur born 1872 in paddington ,
the eldest daugher on the census is age 12 grandaughter she is madge christe cray born 1899 west hampsted london
so im trying to find out if arhtur married a christe i think ?
hope thats not to confusing as this is the only way i can exspane it sorry
val xx