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Yep GB, the same family.

Mary Ann is the sister of Beatrice, and yes James Ives was a bricklayer.

Don't recognise anyone at 1 Georges Street at all. Not family members at all.

No, cannot find Charles Cooper on 1911 either!

Were they down a black hole together?

Thanks for your help GB, Shelley and Mike, Liz and Marie.

Still in the dark though! Two months later, they reappear and get married.

Just posting for info

Name: Mary Ives
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age: 20
Spouse Name: James Henry Burton
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Apr 1915
Parish: Holloway St James
Borough: Islington
Father Name: James Francis Ives - labourer
Spouse Father Name: George Burton
Register Type: Parish Register


38 Georges Road

One witness is William John Ives



Beatrice is not with her brother in 1911


Looking at the marriage cert for William John Ives - father James is showing as a bricklayer

Have you found Charles Cooper on 1911 ?

Was her father shown as a bricklayer on the marriage cert ?

1911 but not sure it is of any use

Name: Charles Arnold
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Father
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 1 George Street, Eden Grove, Holloway N
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: WORKING AT HOME
Registration District: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration District: Lower Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 859
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Holton 44
Ellen Holton 43
Jessie Cordell 52
Jessie Cordell 17
Charles Arnold 52
Arthur Arnold 18
William Arnold 16

nudge

Well I don't know what happened, I posted about 9.30 this morning.

Thank you Shelley for your census info.

Yes, GB, Eden Grove is the correct address. Can you let me know who was living in 1 Georges Street, in 1911 please?

Cheers.

Hi Maddie

have you got james in 1911 as i did find this one


1911 England Census about James Ives
Name: James Ives
Age in 1911: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: St Marylebone Workhouse, Northumberland Street, St Marylebone W
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: CARMAN
Registration District: St Marylebone
Registration District Number: 7
Sub-registration District: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 21-25
Piece: 557

Several families are listed at 1 George Street, Eden Grove, Holloway if that is the right address

Really strange as at the moment only finding even numbers for that street

Hi, GB, back earlier than anticipated!!!!

Address on marriage certificate is 1, Georges Street, N7.

Thomas Whitfield, Witness to marriage, is either her uncle or her cousin, as father and son had the same name.

Thanks to everyone else.

??

Name: James Francis Ives
Year: 1915
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington West
Street Address: 38 Georges road


Not found them at that address in 1911

Do you have her marriage cert as wondering what address she gave on it

Probably not, but I'll post it anyway!


CASTLE, Frederick William Head Married M 50 1861 Building Contractor London N K
CASTLE, Harriett Jane Wife Married 14 years F 46 1865 Devonport N K
IVES, Minnie Beatrice Servant F 20 1891 Domestic Servant London N K

RG number: RG14 Piece: 1039
Reference: RG14PN1039 RG78PN35 RD11 SD2 ED6 SN184
Registration District: Hackney
Sub District: North Hackney
Enumeration District: 6
Parish: St John At Hackney

Address: 26 Alcester Crescent Upper Clapton NE County: London

EDIT: No - I've found this one in 1901

Just for reference


Name:
Beatrice Lavinia Ives

Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date:6 Dec 1894
Father's Name:James Francis Ives
Mother's Name:Mary Ann Ives
Parish or Poor Law Union:Stamford Hill St John, Vartry Road
Borough:Haringey


1901

James F Ives 47
Mary A Ives 43
Beatrice L Ives 9
Mary Ives 7
Mary Appleton 28

Can find them on the l90l , but none of the family on the l9ll. Perhaps they did not fill it in, or it has been mistranscribed. Liz

ps you can do free look ups on the 1911 census on ansetry ant the moment and see the original sencus too for 1911

Can some kind person please look up the 1911 Census for me please?

Beatrice Lavinia Ives b. 1892 Tottenham.

Have her on 1901 still living in Tottenham with parents James Francis and Mary Ann Ives, but she has disappeared in 1911.

I know she married Charles Cooper in Islington in May 1911.

The witnesses at their wedding were George Baker and Thomas Whitfield, could she have been staying with either of them and their families?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I am going out now, but will be back on the boards tomorrow, I thank you in advance.