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James Budd, blacksmith married Sarah Johnson in 1838 in Exeter district and by 1841 they are living in Cardiff. I have them in Cardiff in 1851, and FreeBMD gives deaths for James in 1887 and Sarah in 1878, both in Cardiff. They had 2 children, Mary born Cardiff 1845 and Robert Henry born Cardiff 1848. I can't find any of the family after 1851 except for Mary, who married John Thomas Moses in Cardiff in 1866. Any help in tracing them gratefully received. Thanks.

Could this be them in 1861 (from Ancestry, can't find them on other sites)

1861 Wales Census

Name: James Budd
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Budd
Gender: Male
Where born: Chislehampton, Devon, England
Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 18 Nelson Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status:
Occupation: Blacksmith

Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-registration District: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household Schedule Number: 179
Piece: 4036 Folio: 78 Page Number: 39

Household Members:
Name Age
James Budd 50
Sarah Budd 50
Mary Budd 16 b Cardiff
William Lence 35 - lodger
Ann Hill 45 - visitor

When Mary married in 1866 both she and John Thomas gave their address as 1 Canal Parade.

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record

Groom's Forenames: John Thomas - a mariner
Groom's Surname: Moses
Groom's Age: 23
Marriage Year: 1866 Marriage Month: May Marriage Day: 2
Event Type: Marriage
Page: 46
Place / Parish: Cardiff, St Mary
County: Glamorganshire
Bride's Forenames: Mary
Bride's surname: Budd
Bride's Age: 21
Groom's Father's Forenames: John - a pilot
Groom's Father's Surname: Moses
Bride's Father's Forenames: James - a blacksmith
Bride's Father's Surname: Budd
Record source: Glamorgan marriages transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

Neither previously married.

Witnesses: James Budd and Urina Sinclair

Yes that's definitely them - many thanks. Why haven't the other sites got them? Seems so odd. And the fact that the son Robert vanishes altogether, with no death on FreeBMD. Could he have gone abroad I wonder? Or to sea?

And that's an address I haven't got - Canal Parade. Many thanks.

Sarah's burial gives an address of Sophia Street:

Parish Record Collection - Burial Record

Forenames: SARAH
Surname: BUDD
Abode: SOPHIA ST
Day Month: 02 AUG Year: 1878
Age: 69
Status:
Father:
Mother:
Parish: CARDIFF ST JOHN'S
Type:
Record source: Glamorgan Burial Index
Data provider: Glamorgan Family History Society

They were living Millicent Street when Robert Henry was baptised:

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record


Forenames: Robert Henry
Surname: Budd
Baptism Year: 1848 Month: Nov Day: 27
Place: Cardiff, St Mary
County: Glamorganshire
Birth Year:
Birth Month:
Birth Day:
Fathers Forenames: James
Mothers Forenames: Sarah
Page:
Record source: Glamorgan baptisms transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

They were also at Millicent Street when Mary was baptised:

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

Forenames: Mary
Surname: Budd
Baptism Year: 1845 Month: Apr Day: 27
Place: Cardiff, St Mary
County: Glamorganshire
Birth Year:
Birth Month:
Birth Day:
Fathers Forenames: James
Mothers Forenames: Sarah
Page:
Record source: Glamorgan baptisms transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

Thanks MarieCeleste - that's great. :-)

I think this is James Budd. The age is 29 on the image, but everything else fits.

1881 Wales Census
Name: James Budd
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Chitelhampton, Devon, England <<<<<
Civil Parish: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 4 Patrick Street
Condition as to marriage: Widow <<<<
Occupation: Blacksmith <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-registration District: Cardiff
Piece: 5281
Folio: 15
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William B. George 37
Catherine George 29
Elizabeth Bryant 21
James Budd 29

Certainly looks like him, but the age should be 69! How odd! Many thanks.

Any sign of them in 1871 I wonder? I haven't been able to find them, even allowing for ages being written completely incorrectly!

This ones a Blacksmith but not the right place of birth


1871 Wales Census about James Budd
Name: James Budd
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Sarah Budd
Gender: Male
Where born: Penbrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-registration District: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 17b
Household Schedule Number: 541
Piece: 5363
Folio: 17
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bagley 28
James Savage 43
Ellen Savage 45
Bartholom Savage 19
James Budd 48
Sarah Budd 46

Not yet. I think the whole Budd family may have been written incorrectly. Ozi

1871 Wales Census
Name: James Budd
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Sarah Budd
Gender: Male
Where born: Penbrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 175 Bute (St?)
Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-registration District: Cardiff
Piece: 5363
Folio: 17
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
William Bagley 28
James Savage 43
Ellen Savage 45
Bartholom Savage 19
James Budd 48 - blacksmith <<<<<<
Sarah Budd 46

Sorry, I didn't check back so missed Mel Fairy Godmother's post.

Sarah was born Pembury so perhaps they got muddled up or it was just easier not to right it?

Actually I think Sarah may have been born Payhembury but in 1861 she's down as Pembury, Devon.

1861 Wales Census
NAME: Sarah Budd
SPOUSE: James Budd
BIRTH: abt 1811 - Pembury, Devon, England
RESIDENCE: 1861 - Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan, Wales

I am in Devon

Aha.

Their places of birth seem to have confused the census enumerators! I suspect Payhembury (which is near Sidmouth) would have been pronounced 'Pembrey' in a Devon accent - there certainly isn't a Pembrey in Devon, despite what the 1861 census would have us believe. And in 1851 they put James Budd's birthplace as Chislehampton, Oxfordshire, which it clearly wasn't - we've found Budd gravestones in Chittlehampton, Devon. The Budds are proving some of the most elusive of my ancestors! Thanks everyone for your help - at least I've got a bit more to go on now. Must try and track Robert Henry born 1848 next - he can't just have vanished without trace!