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17 Aug 2013 13:05 |
Thanks all for info
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11 Aug 2013 10:37 |
I wonder if this could be him?
Baptism: 30 Jul 1848 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England James Edward Grindrod - Son of Robert Shaw & Dorothy Grindrod, Spinster Born: 11 Jul 1848 Abode: Bury Occupation: Wheel Wright Baptised by: Thos. Hugo Curate Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850, Page 291, Entry 2324 Source: Original Register
Dorothy Shaw Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Shaw Gender: Female Where born: Spotland, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Bury Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Bury County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Bury Sub-registration District: North Bury ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 147 Piece: 2847 Folio: 15 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Robert Shaw 32 Dorothy Shaw 33 James Edwd Shaw 12 << Sarah Ann Shaw 8 Martha Hannah Shaw 6 Mary Elizabeth Shaw 10 Months William Shaw 10 Just thinking, if he was married when he went off with Fanny he may have reverted to his original name to avoid being traced?
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11 Aug 2013 09:52 |
Possible for Fanny 1881
William Taylor 61 Harriet Taylor 49 John Taylor 28 Sarah Turner Taylor 25 >>>Fanny Taylor 25 Henry Taylor 23 Charles Taylor 19 Philip Taylor 16 Arthur Taylor 9
Still in Devon with parents. 1891 says youngest daughter Hetty was born Batley c1884, so could have moved to Yorkshire 1881-1884
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11 Aug 2013 09:50 |
It looks as though James Henry was registered as a Taylor:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: James Henry Taylor Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1885 Registration District: Launceston Inferred County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 27
I'd be surprised if there was a father's name on the birth certificate.
I notice that on the 1891 James is married, I presume to someone else? I see also that Hetty was born in Yorkshire so I'm wondering if Fanny had been up north and that's how she met James and they came south together?
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11 Aug 2013 09:49 |
Martin,
Have you bought any birth, marriage, or death certificates for more information?
No-one helping on here is related to him, they are just looking for information on-line, as you could.
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11 Aug 2013 09:44 |
Many Thanks Everyone,
Does anybody know anything of the family, especially the step father James Edward Grindrod B 1847 Rochdale D 1914 Devon. What took him from Rochdale to Devon? Also any info on who was the real father of the older children?
Martin
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11 Aug 2013 09:41 |
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Gladys I I Grindrod Name: Gladys I I Grindrod Spouse ame: Frederick P Roberts Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 Registration District: Plymouth Inferred County: Devonshire Volume Number: 7a Page Number: 1145
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11 Aug 2013 09:38 |
The 1911 says James and Fanny had been married 29 years which is a bit of a fiction as they were'nt wed on the 1891, it's more likely how long they'd been together:
GRINDROD, James Head Married M 64 1847 Caretaker Rochdale Lancashire GRINDROD, Fannie Wife Married 29 years F 55 1856 Assisting Caretaker Devon Northtawton GRINDROD, Mary Daughter Single F 16 1895 Caretaker Daughter Helping Caretaker Devon Buckfast
RG number: RG14 Piece: 12693 Reference: RG14PN12693 RG78PN729 RD272 SD1 ED3 SN9 Registration District: Newton Abbot Sub District: Teignmouth Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Teignmouth
Address: 8 Orchard Gardens Teignmouth County: Devonshire
James was a caretaker at the Liberal League Club. Fanny had borne 5 children, 4 surviving.
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11 Aug 2013 09:35 |
A possible second marriage.....
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England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about James H Grindrod Name: James H Grindrod Spouse Name: Gladys I I Finnimore Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947 Registration District: Plymouth Inferred County: Devonshire Volume Number: 7a Page Number: 1270
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11 Aug 2013 09:32 |
1901 census?
James Grindrod 54 born Rochdale Fanny Grindrod 45 born North Tauton, Devon James H Grindrod 15 born Cornwall Mary Grindrod 6 born Devon
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11 Aug 2013 09:32 |
I think he's Harry on this 1891, it suggests he was Fanny's son:
GRINDROD, James Head Married M 44 1847 Painter Rochdale, Lancashire TAYLOR, Fanny Lodger Single F 35 1856 Serge Weaver North Tawton, Devonshire TAYLOR, Hetty Lodger F 7 1884 Batley, Yorkshire TAYLOR, Harry Lodger M 5 1886 Launceston, Cornwall TAYLOR, Jessie Lodger F 3 1888 Okehampton, Devonshire TAYLOR, Kate Lodger F 0 (2M) 1891 North Tawton, Devonshire
Piece: 1757 Folio: 44 Page: 22 Registration District: Okehampton Civil Parish: North Tawton
Address: Roseberry, North Tawton County: Devonshire
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11 Aug 2013 09:26 |
Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%) BOWDEN Ethel Tiverton 5b 873 GRINDROD James Henry Tiverton 5b 873
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11 Aug 2013 09:24 |
Is this him in 1911?
GRINDROD, James Henry Head Married M 25 1886 House Painter Cornwall Launceston GRINDROD, Ethel Wife Married 1 years F 25 1886 Devon Bradninch GRINDROD, Philip Son Single M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Devon Teignmouth
RG number: RG14 Piece: 12692 Reference: RG14PN12692 RG78PN729 RD272 SD1 ED2 SN508 Registration District: Newton Abbot Sub District: Teignmouth Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Teignmouth
Address: 21 Bickfords Lane Teignmouth County: Devonshire
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11 Aug 2013 09:24 |
Is this him in 1911??
Household transcription 1911 census Person: GRINDROD, James Henry Address: 21 Bickfords Lane Teignmouth
GRINDROD, James Henry Head Married M 25 1886 House Painter Cornwall Launceston GRINDROD, Ethel Wife Married1 years F 25 1886 Devon Bradninch VIEW GRINDROD, Philip Son Single M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Devon Teignmouth VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 12692 Reference: RG14PN12692 RG78PN729 RD272 SD1 ED2 SN508 Registration District: Newton Abbot Sub District: Teignmouth Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Teignmouth Address: 21 Bickfords Lane Teignmouth County: Devonshire
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11 Aug 2013 09:22 |
Hi Martin, could you let us know what other info you already have on James Henry e.g. how you connected to him.
In what way are you looking for help? (We're happy to try to provide it if we know what you're after).
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11 Aug 2013 09:18 |
Hi,
I am looking for any help on James Henry Grindrod possibly born Taylor in Launceston, Cornwall 1885, D 1957 in Devon.
His father/Step father was James Grindrod B 1847 Rochdale, Lancashire, died 1914 Devon.
Best Regards
Martin
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