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Mother's names are not recorded on English marriage certs, which is why I suggested that the birth cert would be of more use to you


Epping registration district includes Harlow, which is where 1861 said she was born

Certs ordered on line from the GRO cost the equivalent of GBP9.25, inclusive of postage worldwide.

Thank you for all your help. Just for my information, does an English marriage certificate contain the mother's details as well as the father's or would an illegitimate birth just have unknown?

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

The birth cert would probably be your best bet...................

To find links on GR.......look in 'search all trees'........found under 'search'

Thank you for your help. I do believe I will need to order a copy of the marriage certificate to clarify details. It looks as though it may be an illegitimate birth. Unfortunately there are 2 deaths in Essex that are in the same time frame and I can't distinguish which may be the correct one. I was hopeful that someone on Genes may have been working on similar family lines. As I am from Australia I am not that familiar with the English system for ordering records but I guess I am about to find out!

1851 census


Person: ELLIS, John Address: Hamlet Of Hastingwood Hamlet Common, Northwealld

ELLIS, John Head Married M 44 1807 Agricultural Labourer
Matching, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, Ann Wife Married F 36 1815
Harlow, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, James Son Unmarried M 12 1839 Agricultural Labourer
Harlow, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Scholar
Harlow, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843 Scholar
Northweald, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 6 1845 Scholar
Northweald, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, William Son Unmarried M 5 1846 Scholar
Northweald, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, John Son Unmarried M 0 (1 MOS) 1851
Northweald, Essex

This MAY be her birth......................cert would resolve your query


Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
Ellis Fanny Epping 4a 66

For INFO

1861 census

Person: ELLIS, Fanny Address: Church, Little Parndon Common, Little Parndon

ELLIS, John Head Married M 52 1809 Agricultural Labourer
Matching, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, Ann Wife Married F 55 1806
Northamstead, Hertfordshire VIEW
ELLIS, James Son Unmarried M 23 1838 Agricultural Labourer
Harlow, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, William Son Unmarried M 16 1845 Agricultural Labourer
North Weald, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, John Son M 11 1850 Agricultural Labourer
North Weald, Essex VIEW
ELLIS, Fanny Granddaughter F 2 1859
Harlow, Essex

Odds are she was the illegitimate daughter of an Ellis girl................

Look for possibilities in 1851.................

1871 census is of no help.........she is a 'visitor' with a family named Watson

1881 census

Person: DORRINGTON, John Address: Boleyn Caroline Villa, West Ham

DORRINGTON, John Head Married M 29 1852 Genl Labourer
Hearnwood Common, Essex VIEW
DORRINGTON, Fanny Wife Married F 22 1859
Hearnwood Common, Essex VIEW
DORRINGTON, Lydia A Daughter Single F 3 1878
Plaishet, Essex VIEW
DORRINGTON, William H J Son Single M 0 1881
Upton, Essex

Her father's name - if she knew him - will be on her marriage cert

What does 1881 census say about her birth?

I am looking for information on Fanny Ellis probably born in Essex sometime between 1855 - 1860. She married John Dorrington in 1878 in West Ham Essex. There is a possibility on a 1861 census, however she is listed as a grand daughter so there is little indication of who her parents may be. Any clues would be appreciated.